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Iraq War as UN Mandate
various | March 20, 2023 | Self

Posted on 03/20/2023 12:08:06 PM PDT by Retain Mike

If you find comforting the understanding that George Bush lied to the country and the world about Saddam Hussein possessing WMD’s to enable him to start the Second Iraq War, please read no further.

The war began with the United Nations Security Council passing Resolution 678, which reaffirmed and recalled eleven prior resolutions concerning Saddam Hussein’s Iraq. Resolution 678 did not order the coalition to simply expel Saddam’s forces from Kuwait but used a more expansive term for which precedence existed. The term” restore international peace and security in the area” used language the UN and our Congress understood from the Korean War after the Inchon landing to authorize the invasion of Iraq as it had then affirmed military operations above the 38th parallel to invade North Korea. The United States was selected as its commander in chief for the use of military forces.

A point to emphasize is that the resolution language was accepted by all five permanent members of the Security Council who had veto powers. Great Britain and often France could be relied upon to support United States initiatives, but Russia and the PRC could have promised a veto and demanded the more restrictive language to only expel Iraqi forces from Kuwait. Therefore, at the margin those two countries made the invasion of Iraq possible. To believe invasion was not authorized in the case of Iraq requires breathtaking, premeditated ignorance, because each phrase of Resolutions 678, 687, and 1441 was laboriously parsed by diplomats and politicians whose lives are dedicated to precise meaning of words and precedents.

Next came Resolution 687 which did not end the war but provided Saddam Hussein with a unilateral armistice. He was given an opportunity to renounce international terrorism and weapons of mass destruction (WMD) with their delivery systems. Everyone in the Security Council and Congress understood that a material breach of those requirements meant ending the ceasefire, and invading Iraq to resume the war authorized by Resolution 678.

Hussein refused to comply with his responsibility to submit a comprehensive declaration of and allow removal of all WMD stockpiles and programs, and missiles with greater than 150-kilometer range. He refused to abandon all interest in pursuing the development of nuclear weapons. He also continued forbidden involvement in international terrorism. He thwarted the inspection program envisioned by menacing, parrying, and finally expelling the inspectors in 1998. In response Bush #1, UN, and Clinton ignored their responsibilities to deal effectively with his ongoing material breaches.

The UN had granted its chosen Commander in Chief of military operations the authority to invade Iraq to enforce its mandates, but trembled before the prospect he might actually use it under the criteria members had specified. Debate over Resolution 1441 provided UN diplomates the final opportunity to find a different direction. Instead, these diplomats demonstrated their impotency in debates by deciding to be undecided, resolving to be irresolute, and offering ethereal language not touching the consequence they had originally put in place.

The stage was set to invade Iraq and now requires discussion of the popular canard that resuming the war relied upon possession of WMD. The truth is that presence of WMD stockpiles before resuming the war in 2003 was both wrong and irrelevant, thereby rendering allusions to deception by the Bush administration false.

Wrong because after the invasion, David Kay’s examination confirmed Saddam Hussein was developing missiles with ranges in excess of UN limitations, and said they were the center pole of the tent under which Hussein would rebuild his WMD as the regime sanctions further deteriorated. He found Hussein retained the scientists and technology to restart production of mustard and VX gas. Hussein was also currently developing an indigenous precursor for VX and a stimulant for freeze-drying anthrax. Kay reported Hussein was rebuilding infrastructure and staff for nuclear weapons. Mahdi Obeidi maintained in the New York Times that when the world looked the other way, the knowledge of hundreds of scientists could be applied to existing designs of a centrifuge prototype to jumpstart the nuclear weapons capability. Iraq already had 500 tons of yellow cake in the country under UN seal. We already knew that restraint had no meaning after the North Korean experience. The regime just needed a latter-day Albert Speer or Leslie Groves to replace Hussein Kamel.

The idea Hussein did not have stockpiles of WMD’s was never a creditable assumption. One must believe that a fracturing, Middle Eastern dictatorship of several competing and self-interested spheres of influence achieved an unparalleled intelligence deception. The sophisticated intelligence services of United States, Britain, France, Israel, and Germany had independently determined Iraq had stockpiles of WMD. These intelligence professionals applied different methods, used different resources, jealously guarded their insights and prerogatives, and refused to parrot someone else’s analysis. The media and various diplomats maintained consistent campaigns of disinformation and willful ignorance to fashion a contrary world view.

As an example, the Butler Commission confirmed the analysis by the British Secret Intelligence Service (SIS) that Hussein’s people went to Niger to acquire uranium was creditable. The SIS followed classical methods of validation, analysis, and assessment of several different sources, not including the famous forgeries, to conclude that Saddam Hussein sought significant quantities of uranium. George Bush used this professional intelligence product to claim in his State of the Union message that Iraqi officials had gone to Africa on that mission.

In opposition we only have the childish claims of Joe Wilson whose State Department training left him completely unqualified in terms of the fieldcraft needed to make an intelligence assessment. Basic common sense tells one no totalitarian regime would allow key officials the latitude to just collect a few local crafts while vacationing in other countries. Iraqi intelligence routinely placed families under house arrest when important officials departed the country on assignment. Examine the CIA Fact Book for Niger exports, and you will see uranium is the only business reason Iraqi officials would have had in the country.

All five intelligence services were not wrong. The most reasonable assumption, for which much evidence exists, is that Syria and Russia received inventories for the regime. By the way, is no one curious about how Syria got all those chemical weapons they had to dispose of? Again, one can see from the CIA Fact Book, Syria does not have industries that can be adapted to their production.

I will now discuss why the possession of WMD was irrelevant. The ceasefire ended, and the war begun in 1991 was resumed in 2003, because Hussein behaved in material breach of international obligations as reaffirmed with Resolution 1441. Nowhere in Congressional resolutions of 1991, 1998 and 2002, or UN Resolutions 678, 687 and 1441 can one see possession of stockpiles of WMD as reasons for confronting him with military action. Emerging behaviors in terms of threats, evasion, intimidation, and continuing past actions; not possession was always the key. He was to unconditionally accept destruction or removal of all inventories and programs for WMD and for all missiles over 150-kilometre range. He was enjoined from committing, supporting, or providing safe haven for international terrorism.

The Security Council approved Resolution 687, incorporated 678 and 11 previous resolutions without amendment, and offered Hussein a conditional ceasefire in 1991. The resolution’s key words were to guarantee, reaffirm, accept, submit, declare, yield, designate, forgo, agree, inform, comply, and cooperate. Once again remember none of these resolutions were cobbled together like a middle schooler’s term paper. Diplomats and politicians laboriously parsed each phrase for clear focus on actions instead of possessions; behaviors, not stockpiles.

In this country, even Bush’s strongest opponents were convinced Hussein could not be deterred from development and deployment of WMD. I quote, “We have known for years Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing WMD. Iraq’s search for WMD has proven impossible to deter and we should assume it continues as long as Saddam is in power. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that demanded he disarm and destroy chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq October 1998. We are confident Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up chemical and biological warfare capabilities. There is unmistakable evidence Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. That is why we must be prepared to use force, if necessary, to disarm Hussein and eliminate Iraq’s WMD once and for all.”

The above quotes compile statements respectively by Ted Kennedy, Al Gore, Henry Waxman, Robert Byrd, Jay Rockefeller, and John Edwards. These quotes were uncontested points in 2002, and were followed up with “yah, buts”, which presented again all the logics used for over a decade to excuse Hussein’s violation of his responsibilities. The original links to these quotes have been deactivated to protect the credulous and embarrassed. However, one link at Snopes can be found which both emphasizes the “yah, buts” and the statements delineating the intelligence product. I also provided a link to an article containing additional quotes of a similar nature and including the six voided.

The intelligence product formed a basis for Congressional legislation supporting UN resolutions and enabled Bush to use military force to remove Hussein’s regime, and remove the threat posed by his material breach of obligations to prove abandonment of WMD, missiles, and terrorist support. Notice all these quotes speak to the many UN resolutions emphasizing his obligations to desist developing chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons.

The UN had resorted to surveillance, analysis, and investigation to destroy material and disrupt programs. Hussein continued forbidden involvement in international terrorism. In response, Bush #1, UN, and Clinton ignored their responsibilities to deal with Hussein’s ongoing material breaches. When Clinton was President, Hussein in 1998 even expelled the inspectors turned investigators.

Once again, remember UN precedent from the Korean War incorporated into Resolution 687 provided for the intended invasion of Iraq. The war against Saddam Hussein was resumed because Bush #2 finally obeyed UN and confirming Congressional mandates. Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill envisioned the re-establishment of collective security when the UN was founded in San Francisco. Finally, in 2003 the United States, heading a coalition exceeding that Churchill and Roosevelt assembled to confront Hitler’s Germany, toppled Hussein’s regime, and forced the UN to confront the reason for its’ existence as defined in 1948.

Partial Bibliography:

The Second World War – Triumph and Tragedy by Winston Churchill

United Nation Charter

https://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/preamble.shtml

Korean War Resolution 84 (1950) of 7 July 1950

https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/112027

UN Security Council Resolution 678

http://unscr.com/en/resolutions/678

UN Security Council Resolution 687

http://unscr.com/en/resolutions/687

Iraq Liberation Act

http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Legislation/ILA.htm

The below six links have been deactivated to protect the credulous, but a discussion can be found at Snopes. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/words-of-mass-destruction/

Ted Kennedy Sept. 27, 2002

http://kennedy.senate.gov/~kennedy/statements/02/09/2002927718.html

Al Gore Sept. 23, 2002: www.commonwealthclub.org/archive/02/02-09gore-speech.html

Henry Waxman October10, 2002

http://www.house.gov/waxman/news_files/news_statements_res_iraq_10_10_02.htm

Robert Byrd October 3, 2002

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/archive/2002/byrd100302.htm

Jay Rockefeller October 10, 2002

http://rockefeller.senate.gov/news/2002/flrstmt0102002.html

John Edwards October 10, 2002; http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r107:7:./temp/~r107pqkqkf:e858562:

The below site is still active and contains these and other statements. If The Bush Administration Lied About WMD, So Did These People — Version 3.0

https://rightwingnews.com/quotes/if-the-bush-administration-lied-about-wmd-so-did-these-people-version-3-0/

Butler Commission: Review of Intelligence on Weapons of Mass Destruction

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Politics/documents/2004/07/14/butler.pdf

Atlantic Charter (twenty six countries)

http://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/atlantic-charter

The Coalition of the Willing (thirty six countries)

http://web.stanford.edu/class/e297a/The%20Coalition%20of%20the%20Willing.htm


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: bush; iraq; un; war
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1 posted on 03/20/2023 12:08:06 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: Retain Mike

Spam your leftist garbage somewhere else.


2 posted on 03/20/2023 12:10:11 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Retain Mike

Whether Bush II lied or not (he lied) is not the most important thing. Here are two things that are more important

One, the Constitution requires a declaration of war. UN resolutions mean nothing. As do Congressional “authorizations”. If Bush II wanted a war, he should have been man enough to go before Congress and ask for a declaration of war.

Of course Bush II was not the first president to act like a king, and go to war on his own. But he and LBJ are the worst. They can both go to hell for all the misery they caused.

And two, Bush II’s invasion of Iraq was a “preventative war”. It was waged to prevent Saddam from maybe doing something bad in the future. Well, the Japanese also started a preventative war, on December 7, 1941. Preventive wars are immoral.


3 posted on 03/20/2023 12:24:32 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Retain Mike

Personally, I believe we should’ve disposed Saddam Hussein during the 1990-1991 gulf war.


4 posted on 03/20/2023 12:29:53 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as.)
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To: ifinnegan; Retain Mike
Spam your leftist garbage somewhere else.

Yeah! We've already decided Iraq War II was fantastic. Case closed!

5 posted on 03/20/2023 12:36:07 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Retain Mike

You are courageous here, Mike.

Over the years Conservative populism has joined in the use of Leftist cliches to describe the invasion in terms that were really not applicable.


6 posted on 03/20/2023 12:36:14 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Retain Mike

” restore international peace and security in the area”

Will they do Chicongo next?


7 posted on 03/20/2023 12:37:54 PM PDT by dynachrome (“We cannot save Ukraine by dooming the US economy.” Rand Paul)
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To: dynachrome

Don’t forget New York and Mexifornia!


8 posted on 03/20/2023 12:49:46 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as.)
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To: Wuli; Retain Mike

It’s not courageous to post a vanity with the first sentence telling people who disagree to stop reading.


9 posted on 03/20/2023 12:59:54 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Retain Mike; Wuli
Thank you for the history lesson, not that many are going to appreciate it. I am amused and dismayed how so many Freepers say they distrust the news, while at the same time, accept without question the news media narratives before their sign up dates. Some of us still remember the discussions going on back then, looks like you have not forgotten either. Here's one of your old posts “Bush Lied About WMD” — retort. Work like this was posted on Free Republic at the time it was happening. Freeper jveritas posted frequently on this in 2006. We forget that between the end of the first Gulf War to 9/11, no on doubted Saddam was trying to avoid complying as much as possible and was up to no good.

One of Bush's major mistakes was his refusal to defend himself from any criticism, even when it was easy. The left was pushing "Bush lied people died", when in fact chemical munitions, hundreds of thousands of documents were found related to Saddam weapon's programs. How about the 500 tons of Uranium yellowcake shipped form Iraq to Canada in 2008 (CNN)? Even if it was known, Saddam refused to give it up and was was not supposed to have any it. No matter what was found, the left and the news kept moving the goal post.

At the time I understood why the Bush administration was keeping quiet about what they were finding. There was a war going on. Saddam loyalists, Al Queda, Iran and Islamic groups were all over Iraq. It was not a good time to put on display what was being found, although Bush could and should have given out some information and evidence to counter the left and fight back against the press.

10 posted on 03/20/2023 1:00:36 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Retain Mike

The U.S. should ever go to war at the behest of the United Nations? FR should not be a place for anyone to come and spout such nonsense.


11 posted on 03/20/2023 1:01:28 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: Alberta's Child

Kurdistan should be independent. They would fight wars with Iran, Iraq, Turkey, and Syria-all over territory where Kurds dominate. More fighting amongst those 4 would play into out hands. Keep Saddam’s pants soiled.

It was suggested by a senator who is now in the WH.


12 posted on 03/20/2023 1:17:15 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Retain Mike

Dusting off and recycling old DNC talking points, I see.

We went through this all during the mid-2000s here...why repeat this nonsense?


13 posted on 03/20/2023 1:36:07 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Alberta's Child

Women in Iraq have less freedom today than they did under Saddam.

The Iraq War was the biggest foreign policy mistake until the incompetent exit from Afghanistan in 2022.

I don’t give a shit whether the UN approved it or not, we had ZERO business invading that sovereign country and they were NOT a terrorist threat to the US. All we did is secure the oil market for China.


14 posted on 03/20/2023 4:52:25 PM PDT by DMD13
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To: Retain Mike; piasa

On a related note, I’ll just mention this:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-uranium/iraq-removes-uranium-left-over-from-saddam-era-idUSL0768496820080707

Iraq removes uranium left over from Saddam era (7/7/2008)

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration/

FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow (10/17/2017)


15 posted on 03/20/2023 5:42:14 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Republican Wildcat
These are Republican talking points about the Democrat's about face on Iraq.
The forum was going over these and more back then.
16 posted on 03/21/2023 1:06:05 AM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Republican Wildcat
These are Republican talking points about the Democrat's about face on Iraq.
The forum was going over these and more back then.
17 posted on 03/21/2023 1:06:05 AM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Retain Mike
A thread from Nov. 9, 2005, WMDs Found in Iraq, Human Events, (archive.org):

Contrary to ongoing reports by mainstream media outlets, WMDs have been found in Iraq, so reports New York Times best-selling author Richard Miniter in his new book, Disinformation.

Consider these shocking facts:

• Found: 1.77 metric tons of enriched uranium

• Found: 1,500 gallons of chemical weapons

• Found: Roadside bomb loaded with sarin gas

• Found: 1,000 radioactive materials--ideal for radioactive dirty bombs

• Found: 17 chemical warheads--some containing cyclosarin, a nerve agent five times more powerful than sarin

This is only a partial list of the deadly weapons Miniter reveals in his new book, Disinformation. Miniter systematically dissects the "No-WMD Myth" (how it started, and why it continues), as well as 21 other War-on-Terror myths perpetuated by the media.

The intelligence revealed in Disinformation is vital. The publisher (Regnery, a sister company of HUMAN EVENTS) has agreed to send you one key chapter--free. Simply indicate below to which email address you want the chapter sent and you will receive it in a matter of minutes.

Disinformation is out of print, however there are still copies for sale at Amazon (buyer beware of scammers!) and electronic versions around.
18 posted on 03/21/2023 1:07:28 AM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva UkrayÃ)
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To: Widget Jr

Thank you.


19 posted on 03/21/2023 8:04:28 AM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: Fedora

Thank you.


20 posted on 03/21/2023 8:04:57 AM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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