Best analogy for Ukraine starting war with Russia

[ganeemead]

The analogy with the present crisis in Ukraine and the story of the Chinese Tangut kingdom

[BobL]

“Actions speak louder than words, although he has indicated that he wants the old USSR back in place.”

Good, so we agree that the other guy is LYING, by trying to put words in his mouth. As to ‘indicating’, that’s an OPINION that both of you are welcome to have, and my opinion is different and is based on his ACTIONS.

As to what he wants, he stated it early last year:
1) NATO stays out of Ukraine (but could join EU)
2) Ukraine gets De-Nazified (and yes, I’m happy to post WESTERN headlines for Holocuast-denier types)
3) Donbass gets to vote for greater Autonomy (while staying in Ukraine)
4) Crimea stays with Russia

Ukraine might still be a country today if the Neocons had simply PICKED UP THE PHONE, but we’ll never know, since the Neocons told Putin to stuff it and refused to think he was serious.

[Brellium]

So your claim is that if you keep posting THE SAME LIES here, they somehow become true?

Irony appears to be lost on our Russian friends.

[BobL]

“Irony appears to be lost on our Russian friends.”

People here are welcome to point out my mistakes, but you’ll note that I NEVER CLAIM something to be true by telling OTHERS to back it up.

[bobbo666]

Not really. In the Minsk treaty the Uk agreed with the plebiscite in the Eastern regions and to let Russia have them. But, BeijingBiden was installed and immediately convinced the other corrupt leader, Zelynsky, to betray the agreement. Why? So that BB and other WEF totalitarians could continue to obtain money laundering services and sex slaves.

That is what this is about. Betrayal from corruption, $$, and slavery.

[ransomnote]

Good link.

[ganeemead]

Far from obvious. Near as I can tell, they are just defending themselves.

Again, the people who now rule over us by means of that flagrantly stolen 2020 election, want to rule the whole world the same way and the only thing now standing between them and that lofty goal is the Russian military. We should all be praying for a swift and total Russian victory; basically a victory of Christians over Nazism.

[ansel12]

“”Again, the people who now rule over us by means of that flagrantly stolen 2020 election, want to rule the whole world the same way and the only thing now standing between them and that lofty goal is the Russian military.””

You have become insane, thank God you don’t have the power to lead Russia to conquer America and Europe as you fantasize.

[adorno]

We should all be praying for a swift and total Russian victory; basically a victory of Christians over Nazism.

Did you go to school at a Russian military school or at a Russian brainwashing set of seminars conducted by the KGB?

[skepsel]

WOW, FR needs a bullshit button!

[ganeemead]

Never been in Russia, I live in Texas. History of spoken languages and Russian language are hobbies. I could speak French or German if there was a reason for it and I had six months to practice. My college degrees were in mathematics.

[jpsb]

perhaps better collectively than Alexander.

No, not even close.

[ganeemead]

Basically, anybody who calls himself a conservative and supports the neocon/nato effort in ukraine is deluding himself. In actual reality, the person is functioning as a de-moKKKer-Rat/demopoop...

[Olog-hai]

Pseudoquote, sorry.

[Widget Jr]

Other than to invade a country where Russian proxies were already occupying since 2014. /s

[ganeemead]

You mean that Russian-speaking and basically Russian people had occupied since at least the late 18'th century? Or did you actually think that "ukraine" was a real country or something like that??