In an article from 2011, the mistress says their kid is 13, meaning she got pregnant around 1997. We all looked better 25 years ago.
Here's how each looked in 1997 (Maria in the pic is pregnant )
Posted on 03/04/2023 8:30:15 AM PST by Cronos
I have shared an office and a train home five days a week for 20 years with a chap I’ll call T. He calls me his “work wife”.
He does have a real wife and family. I’m many years divorced. Our relationship is very sibling-ish, and we’ve become, over the years, very close – we share things we don’t share with our “real” friends and family and just by virtue of the time spent together, we have shared a lot of our lives. We have never socialised outside work, aside from at work functions, and have never been to each other’s homes.
The thing is, we’re both retiring this year. And the chances are we will not see each other again, since that’s not the relationship we have. And I know I will miss him.
I’ll miss the everyday closeness, the banter, the laughs, the rants. I imagine he feels the same at some level (we don’t talk about things like that). How does one navigate ending relationships like this? Because I know it’ll end – it’s not that we don’t have all kinds of things in common, but without the framework of work, would we have anything real?
It’s the only drawback to retirement for me. I have other (female) work friends who I know I will see because we do socialise outside of work anyway, but I shall miss T. Any suggestions for finding a way to maintain a relationship, or should I just accept that this is one of the things that retirement does, and let it go?
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Work gives us an excuse to cultivate very close friendships that, outside the “office” may require more explanation or may just not be possible. It’s a safe way, to get very close to someone
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My co-leader is in charge of Spanish children’s choir. Much easier for me. I’m thinking of faking my own death to get off the Stewardship Committee, though.
That makes me glad I skipped my high school's 50-year reunion last September. I haven't seen anyone from there in maybe 45 years, and I never went to any of the other reunions, but I'll admit I was a bit curious about what had happened to a few people. Still, it would have been a 1300-mile drive to get there, and I wasn't that curious.
One of my brothers still keeps in touch with several high-school friends.
You posted: “I had a friend couple, who retired and moved from California to South Carolina. He hired an architect to build a custom house for him and his wife, with enough bedrooms for the kids to come visit. Sort of a family “compound” on a lake.
Their best friends (another couple with no children) moved there about six months later. The kids never came to visit, and our friends finally decided to sell the house and move to Arizona to be close to some other friends who relocated there from California. Their friends who followed them are still living in South Carolina.
Our friends had a new home custom built in Arizona and are quite happy there. The friends whom they followed have since moved away somewhere else closer to their family.”
What you posted is often the problem of relocating to be near friends and/or relatives. Then, they or you have a job change or some relocation with you or them. Or not liking the area and leaving where, you uprooted and moved to.
Sometimes life offers change and no other choices. So when you are younger, you can or may have to make those changes.
Here’s a scenarioatment. e: Nice guy/hunk “Joe” has a wife who’s a looker, but criticises Joe in public. A single lady in the neighborhood, who the kids in the hood call “Horseface”, goes out of her way to complement and show interest in Joe. The hood is amazed when one day Joe runs off with Horseface. It’s simple. Horseface gave Joe the “Velvet Glove” treatment. Beauty and hotness only go so far. A man’s ego can only stand so much unjust criticism.
It's a slippery slope. Though the both of us had spouses, we discovered we were starting to have feelings for each other. Though we never acted on them, we mutually decided it was best to cool things off for a while. Eventually, I got relocated down to New York and so that was that.
Another time, I was on a business trip with another female co-worker. Her hotel room was a few doors down from mine. She was going through a nasty divorce and wanted to go to dinner with me to talk. It was a mistake. She acted like I was on a date with her and took my arm while walking down the street to the restaurant. During the meal, she told me way too much personal information while consuming at least four drinks. Back at the hotel, she asked me to come into her room for a nightcap. I knew where that was leading to. I told her that I was very tired and needed to get some sleep for our presentation the following day. It was very awkward but I think she got the message as she never mentioned anything about that night again. She is still a co-worker today.
Bottom line is that when heterosexual men and women develop a friendship, one or both of them are bound to develop romantic feelings. It's human nature.
“The few true friends I’ve made in my life I was certain to hang onto. Genuine friends are extremely rare nowadays.”
Our older son realized that before he finished college. 2 of his best buds were in junior high, high school, sports, band, choir and other things for 4 years. Even in college, one was his roommate, and they and the other guy lived here basically in spring breaks and during the summer time.
They hunt, fish and boat as a team since high school. They are GodFathers and are like parents/uncles to their now mainly adult offspring.
That son talked about moving to Floriduh to get away from California and his friends said no way! I said sure!
We can see them moving to a section of land in N. California and joining Greater Idaho. They can work when they want to or serve as consultants.
Our younger son in his 50’s is reconnecting with 3 good friends in this area. He moved back 20 plus years ago and sold his soul to a company store. He “retired” this January, and is again seeing his longest timewise and closest friends. One friend just retired in his area and 2 have relocated back into our general area.
I too was good friends with my boss. I’d worked with him for years and we made a good team. He used me as a sounding board knowing that I would keep his thoughts and decision-making process to myself and not be an office gossip. We were like minded on politics, but being the head of a large institution, he had to thread the needle in order to make sure the crazies weren’t offended, and the normal, hard-working staff didn’t leave to take a position elsewhere.
He had a glass door going into his office, and I had a mirror placed where I could see into his office from my desk, that I used when he was meeting with women that might cause trouble by false accusations. I thought it was a very creative plan, although I only had to use it once to discount something someone said. (He did not stand menacingly over her—he never moved from his desk chair.)
We chatted daily, and many a times he called me into his office to discuss a possible crisis brewing. I could read his mind, prepare letters prior to him requesting one, and write a letter or email that sounded as if it came from him directly. He is about 10 years younger than me and treated me as an older sister that he came to for advice.
There was never anything romantic in our relationship. We were simply co-workers and good friends. We spoke or exchanged emails almost weekly for several weeks after I retired two years ago. It then dropped down to monthly and now we haven’t spoken since exchanging Christmas greeting. I do miss our chats and getting his views on the current political climate. He had connections that gave me quite a bit of inside information, and he had a great amount of knowledge, especially of history which was one of his hobbies.
So not all office relationships between a man and women are romantic or sexual, but it is up to the parties to make sure it stays that way and to distant themselves from each other should the relationship begin to change.
For the lucky few politics don’t get in the way have to always know where the line is and don’t cross it.
Anyone who gives you sass must clean one of the bathrooms.
The problem is men will only be friends with women they find attractive.
I found that after the initial - Hi! bla bla bla - the people I disliked then, I still disliked. Nothing changed.
Not true. I'm friends with women at work who are old and unattractive, but fun to chat with.
What you really mean is that men will chat up women who they want to date, and those women will largely consider the men "just friends".
Many, many years ago in California I listened to late night talk radio. It was this exact kind of topic, personal problems and situations that were discussed. I don’t know of any like that anymore. Coast to Coast, replays of daytime political talk and lots of sports radio are on. Must have been taken off because of liability.
Do you remember that kind of talk radio?
In an article from 2011, the mistress says their kid is 13, meaning she got pregnant around 1997. We all looked better 25 years ago.
Here's how each looked in 1997 (Maria in the pic is pregnant )
I have ridden a train twice. Once at seven years old, big adventure with my parents in 1958 and once on Amtrak that was a disaster.
Well it depends on whether he also wants to keep up. If so no reason not to socialize with each other and your spouses. Otherwise let it go.
well, there are some great trains to ride - but in the USA not so much.
Some great train rides that I have traveled:
1. The Sydney to Melbourne ride - awesome
2. London-Edinburgh
3. London-Paris (eurotunnel)
4. Lyons to Madrid
5. Bombay to Kodungallur
6. Geneva - Zurich
7.Bullet train from Beijing to Shanghai
8. Literally any Shinkansen line
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