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We need a new “Church Committee” to curb massive intelligence agency criminality ranging from illegal surveillance to torture and assassination
Covert Action Magazine ^ | Posted Sep 06, 2022 | Jeremy Kuzmarov

Posted on 02/15/2023 6:10:59 PM PST by jacknhoo

Russia-Gate and CIA ties to Ukrainian death squads, along with killer drone program and worldwide surveillance apparatus, necessitates new investigations of U.S. intelligence agencies modeled after the Church Committee hearings of 1975.

(Excerpt) Read more at covertactionmagazine.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: biden; churchcommittee; cia; fbi; intelcommunity; jeremykuzmarov
Very interesting excerpt:

“The kind of liberals who had once supported Frank Church now rallied behind America’s first Black president, Barack Obama, who worked for a CIA-front after college and had likely family ties to the Agency, whose memoir had all the earmarks of a CIA disinformation pamphlet, and who according to his first CIA director, Leon Panetta, “gave the CIA everything it wanted.”30

| Barack Obama tells Europe to get its act togetherPOLITICO | MR Online [Source: covertactionmagazine.com] Liberal support for the “deep state” increased further during the presidency of Donald Trump, whom the Agency slandered as a Russian foreign agent and Manchurian candidate allegedly installed by Vladimir Putin.

The purpose of the Russiagate scandal was to manufacture animus toward Russia whose government the CIA wanted to overthrow, and to undermine Donald Trump whom the dominant forces in the CIA hated because of some of his idiosyncratic positions and because he was an embarrassment to the U.S.”

1 posted on 02/15/2023 6:10:59 PM PST by jacknhoo
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The purpose of the Russiagate scandal was to manufacture animus toward Russia

Sort of backfiring, I think. #FAFO.

2 posted on 02/15/2023 6:28:28 PM PST by AndyJackson (.)
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Covert Action was an enemy of the US during the old War. I believed then and still do nothing was to bad to be used against the communists. The fascinating topic is how did the FBI, the premier counter intelligence agency, the CIA, virtually the other armed forces in the war with communism, and the NSA who deligently tried to sweep up every scrap of electronic intelligence from the communists got re-engineered to attack the American people? Mueller’s program to turn the FBI from an investigative agency to an intelligiece agency may provide the key. Mueller became FI director after being made a partner in Hale and Dorr, one of the giant legal lobbyist firms. The connection is there, who took this opportunistic man up to a high place and showed him all the kingdoms of the earth that would be his if he just bowed down and worshiped certain people? This is like John McCain being offered the Faustian handshake after he swore to do anything to keep the secret of the POWs Nixon deliberately left behind one of the great secrets of the Beltway. Who are these enormousely powerful people? The huge wealth now available have made them think they are men who would be gods.


3 posted on 02/15/2023 6:56:54 PM PST by robowombat ( ..)
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...Barack Obama, who worked for a CIA-front after college and had likely family ties to the Agency, whose memoir had all the earmarks of a CIA disinformation pamphlet, and who according to his first CIA director, Leon Panetta, “gave the CIA everything it wanted.”

Wow...!

4 posted on 02/15/2023 6:57:04 PM PST by chud
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And let's not forget the fact that they haven't released all the JFK files like they were supposed to do by law.

"The answer is yes. I believe they were involved. It's a whole different country from what we thought it was. It's all fake." (Source to Tucker Carlson on CIA involvement in JFK assassination)

5 posted on 02/15/2023 7:00:46 PM PST by chud
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And the whole UAP coverup, whatever happened there...


6 posted on 02/15/2023 7:02:02 PM PST by chud
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To: jacknhoo

Was the original Church Committee effective at all in curbing the rise of the intelligence community behemoth? I don’t see that whatever new group is established will be any better.


7 posted on 02/15/2023 7:02:22 PM PST by I-ambush (We watched the moment of defeat, played back over on the video screen. )
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People have no idea. I see it every day, and nobody knows how bad it is in America proper.

Check my tag line.


8 posted on 02/15/2023 7:08:03 PM PST by AnonymousConservative (DO NOT send me sensitive information - http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/surveillance)
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To: jacknhoo

Amen to this.


9 posted on 02/15/2023 7:08:43 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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Hard to believe that with the paid agents like Met Mom and straight up jingo fools like buwaya that infest this board, especially since the mods do nothing to control or oust these trolls and warmongers.


10 posted on 02/15/2023 7:15:10 PM PST by robowombat ( ..)
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To: jacknhoo

Just like everything, the liberals just wanted to get control of the CIA, and they got it.

“Those are OUR spies now!”


11 posted on 02/15/2023 7:16:49 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: robowombat

“got re-engineered to attack the American people”

It was always that way—but our generation never knew about it—and our “educators” never taught that history.

The problem is that if I walk you through detailed examples I will be accused of being a “crazy conspiracy theorist”—even here.

You can click on my name and start halfway down the page if you want to know more.


12 posted on 02/15/2023 7:25:31 PM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: I-ambush

The Church Committee forced the CIA and FBI to hide their programs with deeper and deeper compartmentalization—so their new lawyers could say “see ma, clean hands”.

They outsourced the nasty stuff:

—To private contractors
—To foreign allied intelligence agencies
—To other government agencies—easy to do with the large number of intelligence agencies (more than twenty)

In the early post Church Committee days the NSA took on a lot of the eavesdropping workload.


13 posted on 02/15/2023 7:29:44 PM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: jacknhoo

We need something less like the Church committee and more like the Nuremberg tribunal.


14 posted on 02/15/2023 7:32:59 PM PST by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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The cold war was real as it can get. If you don’t believe that you are a foil hat.


15 posted on 02/15/2023 7:33:29 PM PST by robowombat ( ..)
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Great must reading from a brilliant and knowledgeable “tin foil hat”:

https://www.amazon.com/Wall-Street-Trilogy-History/dp/0999492918


16 posted on 02/15/2023 7:39:30 PM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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You are correct this person is a classic foil hat. I suspect he knew a real history took to much time and would make little money so instead he knew there were plenty of suckers who would bite for ‘wall street jews rule the world bs’.


17 posted on 02/15/2023 7:52:34 PM PST by robowombat ( ..)
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To: I-ambush

No, in fact the way it was supposed to gain control over the FBI was to establish the FISA court. And of course as we all know now, the FISA court is a secret court with no defense representation and it’s the playground of the FBI. As a rubberstamp, now the FBI can hold up a piece of paper from the court for any black bag operations they do and claim that it’s approved by the court. So in that sense, the church commission was a failure. It was successful with exposing the criminal activities of the intelligence community, but the remedy was a dismal failure.


18 posted on 02/15/2023 8:55:57 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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Read his books.

There is not one word about the “Jews” in there.

He is a brilliant scholar—gives documentary proof for all of his claims.


19 posted on 02/16/2023 5:55:09 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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ABLE DANGER!
20 posted on 02/16/2023 7:02:37 AM PST by Roccus (Veritas, non verba magistri)
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