6 reasons the neocons in the West wanted this war with Russia

There has been a lot of war news recently, combined with confusing messaging. With no overall aim in sight it is difficult to make sense of the policy of the United States and its Western allies. Here is a brief overview of the chaos which has replaced the careful plans of our masters.

Robert Kagan is one of the leading neoconservatives in the United States. His wife, Victoria Nuland, led the 2014 putsch in Ukraine which installed a neoliberal, Western-oriented government. He openly admits that Russia was provoked into invading Ukraine. Why would he say this?

The reason he said this was because it is true, and because it was part of the neoconservative plan.

Firstly, the U.S. decided to remove Yanukovich because he declined a neoliberal economic package from the West, and moved to accept an interest free loan from Russia instead. The U.S. then toppled his government and replaced it with one which immediately implemented punishing neoliberal “reforms.”

Secondly, the U.S. and NATO then set about rebuilding the defeated Ukrainian army, training and funding it to become the biggest and best in Europe by 2022. In addition, a heavily reinforced defensive line was built down the eastern flank of Ukraine. This is known by some today as the Zelensky Line.

Thirdly, the U.S. and its allies entered into negotiations with Russia over the Donbass whose conditions were never intended to be implemented. It is now admitted by Angela Merkel, former Ukrainian President Poroshenko and Volodymyr Zelensky himself that these agreements were undertaken to buy time for the rearmament of Ukraine.

Fourthly, the plan as set out in this 2019 RAND Corporation paper was to engage Russia in a military conflict designed to result in stalemate…

Hitler was also provoked.

The Communist Chinese have been provoked every day for the past 70 years.

The same people who don’t want a war for some reason do not think RUSSIA should constrain itself to the peaceful resolution of international conflicts.

We’re such dirty mean “provokers” that Russia gets to destroy cities, launch human wave attacks, hit apartment buildings with artillery and rockets.

Wow it’s so good to be a righteous Russian despot. You get to rape and murder whole countries and it’s always the fault of some guy’s wife nobody ever heard of.

Just guessing here, off the cuff riffing, but “a heavily reinforced defensive line was built down the eastern flank of Ukraine” could be thought of as a provocation if Russia considers that region as it’s sovereign territory, or at least disputed, territory. It’s probably one of the reasons Putin held a referendum (whatever you think of its legalities). The people in that region are largely Russian speakers; maybe Russian Orthodox Church members, ethnically Russian vs ethnically Ukrainian. And now Zelensky has reportedly taken pretty serious anti-Russian ethnic line such as banning Russian language and crackdowns on some churches and the like.

It could be argued as an outside observer that it is “disputed territory” though I would perhaps not go that far since it wasn’t really disputed much or not very loudly; except to say that all of Europe’s borders have changed and been in dispute since before the rise of the Roman empire. And of course, Russia did invade Ukraine back during the Obama years without much of a peep from the west. That was some kind of signal - either that we quietly agreed, or that we didn’t think it was worth fighting over. Either way, our government now sure has a different attitude about it today - even arguing that Ukraine should take back the territory taken during Obama’s term.

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