Posted on 02/09/2023 7:55:57 PM PST by BenLurkin
With the number of fires caused by lithium batteries soaring across the U.S., firefighters and other experts say the training needed to fight them effectively is lagging in many places. Firefighters and city officials are also imploring the manufacturers to redesign the batteries so that, when they fail, the resulting fires can be put down more easily.
Kerber said his team has run tests on lithium-ion batteries in which it took only 15 seconds from the first sign of smoke to the windows being blown out in a house. In a traditional fire, it typically takes about three minutes for a room to be engulfed, he said.
The rise of electric scooters in cities has led to a massive spike in battery fires.
Lithium-ion batteries sparked more than 200 fires in New York City last year alone, killing six people and injuring nearly 150. That’s double the amount of battery fires in 2021, according to the New York City Fire Department.
So far this year, electric bike batteries have been identified as the cause of three fires in New York.
The most recent blaze broke out inside a building in the Inwood section of Manhattan on Feb. 5. Three people were hospitalized in critical condition, officials said. Last week, an e-bike battery sparked a fire at a day care center in Queens that injured nearly 20 children.
Some fire departments in Arizona and elsewhere have added a new tool to fight these kinds of fires: a chemical additive specially designed to absorb heat and put down certain kinds of blazes.
The product, known as F-500 Encapsulator Agent, has shown in early tests to be effective at putting out the stubborn fires created by lithium-ion batteries.
(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...
If any ICE vehicles spontaneously combusted with such frequency several Fed. agencies would be forcing recalls and halting further sales.
But for “The EV Revolution” it is excuses and slow walking.
pumper trucks full of sand... bury the car/fire
Where’s the alien?
Building fires are sooooooo great for the environment... Liberals must be so proud. /s
Don't know if real. But video seemed professionally done. It was posted by Tesla Car World. But there are so many people sticking Elon or Tesla in their titles to draw in viewers, it's hard to know what's real and what's fake.
Elon Musk Reveals New Tesla Battery Design that Could Last 100 Years, Change the Entire Industry!"
I'm also seeing some interesting headlines about sodium or sea salt based batteries.
Such fabrications come from Elon himself, who has repeatedly promised such batteries in the past, only to unveil substandard batteries using cheap materials.
Last I heard, Tesla is only rebranding batteries made by other companies now, and at that, in extremely defective ways, such as placing the battery in a location where water directly expels onto them, rusting the battery and causing fires.
This has been reported to the relevant government bodies, who don’t appear to do anything about it.
just watched a show today exploring a parking garage camera footage of a car with noone in it smoke for a bit then burst into flames - turns out to be that the car was electric-
won’t that be grand- ripping down a highway full of cars, and an electric car bursts into flames right in front of you and everyone-
There’s a reason you can’t mail lithium batteries through the USPS.
an ABC Australia regional piece; rarely does MSM report these fires, in order to protect the “climate scam”:
2 Feb: ABC Australia: Australia “not prepared” for fire risk of lithium-ion batteries used in e-scooters, bikes, cars, say firefighters
ABC Gold Coast/by Dominic Cansdale and Cathy Border
Electrochemistry professor Paul Christensen, from Newcastle University in the United Kingdom, started researching lithium-ion batteries in the 1980s and has consulted UK and Australian fire services.
“Don’t get me wrong, I’m a big, big fan of lithium-ion batteries,” he said.
“But I believe they’ve penetrated far faster at all levels of our society than our understanding of the risks.”...
The United Firefighters Union of Queensland’s general secretary, John Oliver, said there had been 27 house fires linked to electric vehicles (IN THE STATE OF QUEENSLAND ALONE) so far this financial year.
“We’re not prepared for this because we’re going to get more,” he said.
“This isn’t a normal fire … firies are worried about it.”...
Professor Christensen said a government-led education campaign was needed...
“Do not charge your electric-bike or e-scooter indoors under any circumstances whatsoever,” he said.
“Do not charge them when you’re out, do not charge them when you’re asleep … do not charge them where, in any way, they impede your escape.”...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-02/lithium-ion-batteries-pose-new-fire-risk-says-firefighters-union/101888598
18 Jan: ABC Australia: Concerns over growing number of fires linked to lithium-ion batteries in e-scooters and e-bikes
By Rhiannon Shine
Hundreds of fires across Australia have been linked to lithium-ion batteries, which are used to power light electric vehicles like e-scooters and e-bikes...
Fire and Rescue New South Wales said it responded to about 180 lithium-ion battery-related fires in the past 12 months, Victoria had 120 in the year to July, and Queensland had recorded 72 since 2021.
The latter figure included an e-scooter that caught fire at a Brisbane house last week and five people were hospitalised...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-18/e-scooter-lithium-battery-fire-risk-fears-/101863902
in the State of Victoria, firefighters refuse to deal with lithium battery fires in underground car parks. say they can’t get their equipment down there in order to submerge the vehicles in water, or whatever.
if it weren’t for the “climate scam”, lithium batteries would have been recalled and banned by now.
We’ll see a return of Edisons nickel-iron chemistry, just wait and see.
The curious might want to Google “Battolyser”.
teasler is desperate to divert attention from their time bombs.
say wut??? 8^)
Don’t forget the fires contribute to global warming. Also, in the past, halon wan banned from fire extinguishers because of global warming. I wonder if the new chemicals have the same problem.
I’m hoping some else will do it, only one company in the USA builds them now and they rape you - price wise.
I want those batteries for my solar system
The batteries are way too big for cars.
Yes ma'am there will be a slight scar, in the shape of an anchor but it will fade over time....
That's not true. You do have to add the sticker on the outside to show there's a lithium battery inside but you can send them. They usually travel by ground instead of air.
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