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The Croatian President Slammed His US-Led NATO Allies For Provoking Russia & China
Oriental Review ^ | 01/02/2023 | Andrew Korybko

Posted on 02/01/2023 11:57:21 AM PST by MarMema

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Yes, a Moscow-based American political analyst specializing in the global systemic transition to multipolarity.
1 posted on 02/01/2023 11:57:21 AM PST by MarMema
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To: MarMema

Oops, Biden regime change coming to Croatia soon


2 posted on 02/01/2023 12:03:31 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Darksheare

Sober statements, unfortunately Croatia is mostly a tourist destination and has no sway.


3 posted on 02/01/2023 12:09:02 PM PST by TonyinLA ( I don't have sufficient information to make an informed opinion said no lefty ever.)
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To: MarMema

Our Ukrainian allies have added the Croatian President and Hungarian PM to their Myrotvorets list, (aka a “ kill list”) used by their intel service and nationalist radicals to track and potentially assassinate “ enemies” of the Kiev nationalist regime.


4 posted on 02/01/2023 12:09:59 PM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: Darksheare

So, is it just me, or does something seem off about this whole Russia-Ukraine war. Usually, we have people coming out of the woodwork to negotiate a peace deal. In this one, everyone wants to send billions to Ukraine to keep fighting. We know the military industrial complex is getting rich. What other reasons are there to keep up the fighting?


5 posted on 02/01/2023 12:11:49 PM PST by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands." )
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Voices of weakness and treason.

The rapist is always at fault.

The rapee never asked for it.


6 posted on 02/01/2023 12:22:24 PM PST by Reaganez
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To: Darksheare

7 posted on 02/01/2023 12:23:07 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: MarMema

After the war ended in 1995, Croatia decided to privatize their industry. The most extensitve and profitable of all was their food processing industry, combined with agricultural potential. Most of it landed in the lap of Todorović and his Agrokor corporation, which controlled the entire production and distribution chain - farms, processing plants, packaging plants and retailers.

However Croatia then joined the EU and the cracks appeared in his business model. Specifically, his firms specialized in what we might call “high price, low quality” segment, which understandably suffered when real competition finally arrived. He still kept up his business model and tried to expand his holdings, but ended up unable to find sources of finance to do so. He eventually ended up with loan sharks with Russian passports.

Then the obvious things happened and most of Croatian industry ended up with Sberbank, ultimately owned by the Russian state. Is it any wonder their president is Putin’s lapdog?


8 posted on 02/01/2023 12:23:16 PM PST by Cronos
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To: MPJackal

Dedollarization.

The US has been the leading superpower since WW2.

In recent years we have become a bully and thief.

Other leaders who challenged the dollar’s hegemony were Saddam and Khaddafi.

Now, countries have become tired of our weaponization
of the dollar, use of Swift as punishment, and sanctions, sanctions, sanctions.

Those sanctions lose power if the dollar is no longer a reserve.

After Bretton Woods, sometime in the 70s we dropped our reliance on a gold standard, and turned to the Saudis to prop us up with the petrodollar.

The petrodollar is ancient history.

Some links with parts that may he helpful..

https://www.thepostil.com/conflict-in-ukraine-genesis/

https://thecradle.co/article-view/7385/follow-the-money-how-russia-will-bypass-western-economic-warfare

https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2022/3/rubio-colleagues-introduce-bill-to-prevent-russia-china-financial-coordination


9 posted on 02/01/2023 12:25:45 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: Cronos

I understand Warsaw is raking it in on this war.

And now has considerable power over Ukraine elections.


10 posted on 02/01/2023 12:27:37 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: MarMema

“ Central European countries like Croatia, Hungary, and also recently Austria too are beginning to emerge as voices of reason …”

I hope the list continues to grow.
I can’t stress enough how against this corrupt war I am. While how I feel means nothing, hopefully Croatia, Hungary, and Austria’s voices are heard and builds a resistance.


11 posted on 02/01/2023 12:28:47 PM PST by HollyB
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To: Reaganez

I guess one only has to look into a situation enough to properly determine -— who is the real rapist?

Or one can just take a simple and superficial approach, especially when it works for personal bias.


12 posted on 02/01/2023 12:34:06 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: HollyB

The Ukrainian militia were ethnically cleansing Hungarians in Transcarpathia. Orban has been threatening Ukraine, telling them to stop...went to the EU or UN over it.

Apparently he found the right threat because yesterday they pulled out.


13 posted on 02/01/2023 12:40:32 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: MPJackal

Good question.


14 posted on 02/01/2023 12:41:20 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: silverleaf

“Our Ukrainian allies have added the Croatian President and Hungarian PM to their Myrotvorets list, (aka a “ kill list”) used by their intel service and nationalist radicals to track and potentially assassinate “ enemies” of the Kiev nationalist regime.”

Do you have a source link for that?


15 posted on 02/01/2023 12:53:08 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: MarMema

“8/22/2022, 8:14:31 PM · 21 of 37
Reaganez to Jan_Sobieski
There is a strong link between believing anti-vaxxer propaganda and being a retarded dumbass.”

Same clowns pushing the clot shot also pushing the uke war. Just like you’d think regime shills would...


16 posted on 02/01/2023 12:55:16 PM PST by In_Iowa_not_from
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To: MPJackal

“What other reasons are there to keep up the fighting?”

I’m not sure who said it but....

“Keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.”

The blowback for provoking this entire thing, instigating the Maidan Coup, and destroying Nord I and II is going to be catastrophic for the World Police.


17 posted on 02/01/2023 1:13:50 PM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: MarMema

Zelensky is evil. And because he has the backing of the US, he’s overly demanding, a bully, dictator, corrupt…I can go on. You get the point.


18 posted on 02/01/2023 1:25:41 PM PST by HollyB
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To: Mariner; silverleaf

https://southfront.org/croatian-president-added-to-ukrainian-kill-list/

Apparently, being in favor of peace in Europe is reason enough for the Ukrainian neo-Nazi regime to threaten the someone’s life. After criticizing the German Foreign Minister’s irresponsible pro-war remarks and emphasizing the importance of peace with Russia for European stability, Croatian President Zoran Milanovich has been added to Myrotvorets, the Ukrainian government’s public kill-list. The case shows how the Ukrainian regime deals with its own international “allies” – since Croatia is a member of NATO and EU.

Croatian President Milanovich “disappointed” Ukrainian and Western leaders with his realistic statements. He has long asserted that Moscow is an important point for European stability and supported talks that take Russian interests into account. Recently, he criticized Annalena Baerbock’s pro-war statements, saying: “The German foreign minister says we must be united, because I quote, we are at war with Russia. I didn’t know that, Maybe Germany is at war with Russia, but then, good luck. Maybe this time it turns out better than 70-odd years ago. If we are at war with Russia, then let’s see what we need to do. But we won’t ask Germany for its opinion”.

In the last week of January, Milanovich’s name appeared on the website of the “Myrotvorets” group, in the “list” section, which is intended to expose the data of the people the Kiev regime wants to kill. The site also informs the groups that helped it to obtain the data of the listed. The information is provided by various intelligence agencies, both Ukrainian and Western ones, including American institutions such as the CIA and FBI. In the case of Milanovich, this was provided by Ukraine’s GRU.

“Myrotvorets” (ironically, the word “peacemaker” in Ukrainian) is formally a Ukrainian NGO, but which, in practice, acts as a state department. The group collects data from people considered enemies by the government and indexes it on a large online platform. On its website which is hosted on a NATO’s server, Myrotvorets defines itself as a “Center for Research of Signs of Crimes against the National Security of Ukraine, Peace, Humanity, and the International Law”, which provides “information for law enforcement authorities and special services about pro-Russian terrorists, separatists, mercenaries, war criminals, and murderers”.

What makes the site extremely dangerous is not merely listing people who supposedly “should die”, but the fact that the Kiev regime actually uses the information given by the organization to persecute and kill those listed. Murders such as that of Daria Dugina, who was included on the site, show that Kiev is really trying to fulfill the objective of eliminating all those who are identified by Myrotvorets as “criminals”. Also, when a listed person dies, the site updates its section by putting the word “liquidated” in the victim’s name.

It is also necessary to emphasize that, in addition to politicians, diplomats, military and journalists, according to research recently made by Russian officials, more than 300 children from Donbass are included in the list. Many formal requests have already been made by Russians and foreigners for the site to be disabled, but no action has been taken so far.

In justifying Milanovich’s inclusion on the death list, Myrotvorets exposes: “2.02.2022. ‘There is no European or EU stability without Russia’, said Croatian President Zoran Milanović, adding that ‘Russia is a factor in that equation, and we should have an agreement with Russia’. Milanović accused the UK of ‘inciting’ and believes that pushing Ukraine towards the confrontation with Russia is ‘irresponsible’. Asked why he did not meet the UK’s Secretary of State for Defence, Ben Wallace, who was in Zagreb, the Croatian president, told journalists he does not meet with defense ministers”.

As we can see, the statement to justify the addition is old. In fact, this is not the first time the President appears on the list. He had already been included in early 2022, when he criticized UK’s anti-Russian provocations. But apparently his name was hidden in recent months, having now reappeared due to his criticism of Baerbock. The site constantly updates its kill-list, deactivating and reactivating files, according to the frequency of “pro-Russian” statements made by those listed. For example, the head of Twitter Elon Musk was even included in the list after defending peace negotiations with Russia, and was subsequently hidden. In this sense, Milanovich’s defense criticism against Baerbock seems to be the reason for his “re-addition”.

Indeed, it remains to be seen what the position of the EU and NATO will be in the face of the fact that the leader of a member country of both organizations is being threatened with death by a non-member state. In theory, the West should protect Milanovich and even engage in preventive intelligence operation to stop Kiev from trying anything. But, in reality, both organizations are more likely to ignore the topic and continue to support the neo-Nazi regime, despite all its crimes.


19 posted on 02/01/2023 1:34:11 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: silverleaf

https://t.me/ukr_leaks_eng/1253

◾A Latvian woman is outraged at the fact that there is a Myrotvorets (kill list) in Latvia where they target alleged “ pro-Russian” Latvian citizens:

- Hello friends, I have urgent news
A friend of my acquaintances from Riga just happened to visit me and told me that she was brought into the Latvian “Myrotvorets” (”Peacemaker”).

- It doesn’t surprise me that I haven’t found my name there yet, but it will definitely appear there soon
To say that there is no fascism in Latvia... after that, we need to speak loudly that there is fascism in Latvia.

◾Here are the web and telegram channel of this kill list, that everyone should report:

https://myrotvorets.team/

https://t.me/myrotvorets_eu


20 posted on 02/01/2023 1:38:08 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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