Posted on 01/29/2023 11:13:42 AM PST by lefty-lie-spy
I am a fan of classic radio shows and I notice that until at least the late 1930s, what we know as the city of Los Angeles, California, was always referred to phonetically as, “Los Angle-Es”.
Do any of our old timers or young timers with more knowledge than myself here know, or remember when, the pronunciation change was made, and by who, and why?
You can hear this formerly de facto pronunciation in old radio shows from the 1930s such as this example - https://podcasts.apple.com/jp/podcast/case-closed-old-time-radio/id219708992?l=en&i
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Long time radio talk show host Phil Hendrie still pronounces Los Angle-es that way till this day.
Benny Hill: "It's pronounced, "Havaii"!
Second man: "No, it's pronounced, "Hawaii!"
(third man walks by)
Benny Hill: "Excuse me sir, can you settle an argument for us: Is it pronounced, "Hawaii" or "Havaii?"
Third man: "It's pronounced, "Havaii."
Benny Hill (triumphantly): "Thank you!"
Third man: "You're velcome!"
You sure did! If I just hadn’t gone and GoDuckGo’d the song to grab the link and add it…LOL
I often wonder about that, hearing it on various LA-based detective shows on SiriusXM Radio Classics!
Comin’ into Los Angelees
Bringin’ in a couple of keys
Don’t touch my bags if you please, mister customs man
No one literate pronounces it Los AngeleEEs. I lived there for four years in the 80’s and no one pronounced it like that unless they were trying to be humorous in a low IQ way.
Unless, as others have pointed out, you’re Arlo Guthrie and you need it to rhyme with “ki’s” as in kilos.
Sam Yorty ping.
The Los Angeles Angels are, translated, “The The Angels Angels”.
“(though it actually more like “Lōs Ankel-hes”.
You’re on the right track. When the Spanish, who spoke Castilian from the Kingdom of Castile, started arriving in the mid 1500’s, the name progressed from there and was slanged in with the mestizo indian dialects and the coastal indians there before the Mexican entrance, the “n” was silent and it was pronounced Los Ah-gles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWmcjJ0rVNk
Born and raised there for my first 20 plus years in the central valley starting in the 40’s. We just called it L.A. like we called San Francisco Frisco. Easier forgotten they were there that way.
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Maybe when library turned to liberry??? Or Packistan turned to Pockiston??? Or conTROversy turned to conTROVersy??? Or when faggot turned to gay???
In England most likely to hear Los Angeleese.
Pandering to the beans?
And often become off-ten?? And frustrated became flustrated?
Mrs Whitworth, my old English teacher, is rolling in her grave.
I remember when people used to correct someone for saying LA instead of Los Angeles.
I was born and raised in Los Angeles, and NOBODY said “Los Angle-is” except for some radio guy who hailed from the Midwest. The most common name was simply L.A.
“During the 1920s and 1930s Los Angeles was a bastion of Anglo Protestantism, reflecting the values of Midwestern parishioners who had been carried to the Southland on the Southern Pacific Railroad. Well into the 1970s, Protestant denominational leaders enjoyed comfortable, influential ties with the city’s still-strong “downtown business
establishment,” which itself was largely Protestant.
The Immigration Act of 1965, however, created the condition for a radically different religious future for the City of Angels-a future that would anoint Roman Catholicism as the area’s dominant religious group. Today Roman Catholicism is the single largest faith tradition in Los Angeles County, with 294 parishes and 3,631,368 adherents.
Among Christians, 71% are Catholics. Between 1980 and 1997, Roman Catholicism experienced a 36% growth.”
ConTROVersy is a Britishism.
Like INsurance is a midwest/westcoasterism.
Put a sock in it, lots of red here in calif, besides FR is here too.
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