Posted on 01/23/2023 8:31:26 AM PST by MeganC
Meet a newly minted multi-millionaire.
Sounds like a Jimmy Carter campaign slogan.
I would not bet the farm on it. “It” being the Officer is out of a job. If he gets fired, the next town over will pick him up.
“The woman was leaving, the cop stopped her from leaving, and then arrests her for failing to ID for a trespass violation that doesn’t exist in law. “
Yet the article says they were called about a report of disorderly conduct, not trespassing. That’s enough reasonable suspicion to detain someone, and if they can detain them, they can demand ID.
“Since when does a mere complaint, or being “called to the scene” create a cause for citation and detainment? Doesn’t the cop have to determine by their own observation and evidence that a crime was committed?”
It has created a cause for detainment since forever. To make an arrest or issue a citation, it would require the police to do some investigating, but a witness report is plenty to detain someone while that investigation is being conducted.
Well that is true and I already said he was out of control and would be done as a cop. I was not justifying his behavior. I was saying he lost control. Which he did. The cops were not called because this lady and those in the store were being kind and polite including this woman. The cop is guilty and it remains to be seen who the bad guy was behind the counter. My guess it was the person who tried to charge her again for the extra 30 cent piece of cheese.
Those stores get complaints like that all day. It was a stupid piece of fake cheese.
“You don’t have the right to a Lincoln if you paid for a Ford.”
The law says “equal value or better value”. This is why food managers will usually ask you if everything would be cool if they give you a second sandwich or free fries to make it right. The cost is a tax write off anyhow.
I ran a restaurant for several years. Not only is the cop going to lose his job, but the store manager is going to lose his job too. The #1 concern of corporate is preventing stupid unproductive lawsuits over just a cheeseburger.
They will tell him he/she should have just made it right so that the customer left satisfied and it would have prevented the whole mess in the first place. Now they are legally involved and involved deep over just a cheeseburger.
Good point!
The only disorderly conduct I saw was from the two clowns beating up a woman in a McDonald’s parking lot.
And if the woman was truly being disorderly in the McDonald’s then where’s their security video to back up that allegation?
The customer is not ALWAYS WRONG as the cult of greed would have you believe. This is Bill Gates ideology and business practices that has gone viral with current business policy.
If the ONLY thing going on is verbal, a cop cannot punch someone. But if someone is struggling? I don’t know.
But I DO know I’m glad I’m not a cop. I wouldn’t do it for $500K/year in a big city!
We teach "keep your hands to yourself" to kindergartners so it should be within the intellectual capacity of your average police officer.
But considering the number of times I have heard people who were not under arrest have to repeatedly tell officers not to touch them, apparently not.
Better training, less watching TV cop shows might help avoid these situations.
Agree. She walked onto the property without any complaint from the “owner”. So there was no trespass at that point. It was only when she complained that the owner cried trespass, after which she was leaving. And no crime there. I hope this gal owns the place after a nice lawsuit.
Still needs probable cause for a traffic stop. If none, the cop gets dinged again!! :-)
I agree. But at least it’s far easier for the cop to stop a driver, run their plate, run their ID, and then come back and say “I thought I saw you make a turn without a signal but maybe I was mistaken so I’m just going to let you go and ask you to be careful. Have a nice day!”
He gets the ID all the same, no one gets beaten, no one gets sued, and he keeps his job.
May you reap the results of handcuffing cops!
Here are 2 hints:
1 - Kindergarteners touch each other ALL THE TIME, and
2 - COPS ARE NOT 5 YEAR OLDS AND DON’T ARREST 5 YEAR OLDS!
We do not know the circumstances at the time of the argument between P and D. If P left promptly after warned to leave, no criminal trespass. If P did not leave and continued make a scene and arguing, etc., P is guilty of criminal trespass at that time.
Bingo! You have a nice day, too!
“Agree. She walked onto the property without any complaint from the “owner”. So there was no trespass at that point. It was only when she complained that the owner cried trespass, after which she was leaving. And no crime there. I hope this gal owns the place after a nice lawsuit.”
Exactly right.
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