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Detained Over CHEESEBURGER | No Crime, No ID
The Civil Rights Laywer ^ | John H. Bryan / Civil Rights Attorney

Posted on 01/23/2023 8:31:26 AM PST by MeganC

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To: Openurmind
The customer is not ALWAYS WRONG as the cult of greed would have you believe.

It's not the "cult of greed", it the cult of authoritarianism.

The primary purpose of the police in this society is to (1) protect the government, and assert the government demands by any means necessary, and (2) protect the corporate system.

121 posted on 01/23/2023 12:19:57 PM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Mr Rogers
I can defend myself from criminals a lot easier then I can from your steroided up police that think they are special.

May you not meet them and get beaten or killed because they felt "threatened".

And yes, cops do arrest five year olds. And often behave like five year old.

122 posted on 01/23/2023 12:21:58 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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To: dforest
The cops were not called because this lady and those in the store were being kind and polite including this woman.

And so the politeness police were called in.

123 posted on 01/23/2023 12:23:32 PM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: JonPreston

Yep, I have zero problems with cops punching her or anyone if they are resisting arrest. The Zero Cops people don’t want tasers, choke holds, punching or rubber bullets used. No tear gas for rioters either. What they leave is lead, and death. Now who is responsible for that?

I know, hire more social workers to respond to crime. That is EXACTLY what these lunatics want.


124 posted on 01/23/2023 12:32:27 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ("People who didn't take take the Jab have -0- regrets, those who did may be SADS.)
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To: MeganC

Except she can return because she needs to finish her part of the trespass complaint. In short, if you can just leave the scene of a trespass complaint, without giving ID, the criminal trespass law is effectively null and void.


125 posted on 01/23/2023 12:36:15 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ("People who didn't take take the Jab have -0- regrets, those who did may be SADS.)
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To: Openurmind

Except she refused to give her ID or identify herself. The card she used to buy food, was not even in her name. She caused the entire thing, and if she was beaten she only has herself to blame. SHOW YOUR ID and get out of there beotch.


126 posted on 01/23/2023 12:38:11 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ("People who didn't take take the Jab have -0- regrets, those who did may be SADS.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Actually, I disagree with this, you are required to have ID, unless you are a darkie voter.


127 posted on 01/23/2023 12:40:32 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ("People who didn't take take the Jab have -0- regrets, those who did may be SADS.)
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To: Openurmind

Except in or to be “trespassed” legally unable to visit that business, the first contact you need the persons ID. It is part 1 in the process, which I am sure the beotch knew. Which is why she fought so hard against it. I would bet she has been trespassed out of MANY places.


128 posted on 01/23/2023 12:42:19 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ("People who didn't take take the Jab have -0- regrets, those who did may be SADS.)
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To: MeganC

I could be wrong but I think that woman has won the lottery.


129 posted on 01/23/2023 1:02:50 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (No Doubt Now: Stolen Election)
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To: Fido969

I wasn’t talking about the police. I understand their egotistical authoritarianism hangups. I was talking about the “Private Business Rights” cult. There is a HUGE following of this cult here. A business can do absolutely no wrong in any and all circumstances no matter what they are. The customer is ALWAYS WRONG and the business is ALWAYS RIGHT.

This cult will defend a business even if the business is committing very real codified crimes like fraud. This cult will defend a business no matter how immoral or greedy the business is. They always hold the dollar more valuable than any all legal and moral standards. So if you ever wonder why a particular defense of business becomes radical, extreme, and irrational around here this is why. It is that cult of greed over morality.


130 posted on 01/23/2023 1:51:20 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Glad2bnuts

The law in Ohio and most everywhere else is that trespass does not occur if you have been asked to leave and you leave.

Trespass only occurs if you’ve been asked to leave and then you leave only to return.

In this case the woman was complying with the request to leave when the officer arrived. Meaning that under the Ohio law (which I cited in an earlier post) no crime had occurred. The officer then did not have a justification for demanding ID.

Where his own department has put him on unpaid leave for this situation I’d say that his department is reading the law correctly.


131 posted on 01/23/2023 2:33:47 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Mr Rogers; Harmless Teddy Bear

“COPS...DON’T ARREST 5 YEAR OLDS!”

Uh-huh.

“Lawsuit alleges officers harassed and assaulted 5-year-old kindergartner”

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/27/us/maryland-officers-assault-kindergartener/index.html

“Kindergarten Cop: A 5-year old Is Cuffed, Arrested in Florida”

https://hunewsservice.com/news/kindergarten-cop-a-5-year-old-is-cuffed-arrested-in-florida/

And in the close-enough department:

“Video shows police arresting 6-year-old girl at school
The child had zip put around her wrists as she cried and pleaded to be let go.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/video-shows-police-officer-arresting-6-year-old-girl-school-n1142356/


132 posted on 01/23/2023 2:40:21 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: TexasGator

you are only partially right. They have to explain to you as they are doing it that you are being detained and why. Typically, this is the charged and arrested part. They can detain you without arresting you but they have a small time window to charge you and make it an official arrest. They cannot detain you because you refuse to show them ID. If they cannot or will not say you are being detained and why then they cannot require identification. At least in Ohio. Other states may have other laws, but read up on Habeus Corpus, miranda rights, etc. Interesting stuff.


133 posted on 01/24/2023 5:44:42 AM PST by NicoDon
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To: NicoDon

“you are only partially right. “

I am 100% right. Maybe incomplete but better than being 100z5 wrong.


134 posted on 01/24/2023 7:06:15 AM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: MeganC

Ask McDonald’s.


135 posted on 01/24/2023 7:41:28 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: TexasGator

Yeah, because being right is all that matters. What are you, 12 years old?


136 posted on 01/24/2023 10:27:34 AM PST by NicoDon
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To: NicoDon

“Yeah, because being right is all that matters. What are you, 12 years old?”

You made a false post and then called my 100% correct post only partially true.

Why didn’t you just admit your post was untrue. What are you? Twelve years old?


137 posted on 01/24/2023 10:44:22 AM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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