So change the name to toxic water. Fresh no longer applies
Less concerned fishing WA, MT, WY, CO.
Do the freshwater fish eat freshwater fish?
I knew that the Great Lakes weren’t salt water, but I didn’t think anyone referred to as “fresh water” for a long time. Too many city storm drains going in there.
“... reduced vaccine effectiveness...”
Well, there you go. More cover for the failed covid vaccine.
Thus may be true, but keep in mind it is from the EPA, so it is not from a trustworthy source. Even they admit they only found 48 parts per trillion. That does not seem to be a lot.
48 parts per trillion. Oooo scary. I like this new word “forever chemicals” too. More scaaaary. Science! Just out of curiosity is or perhaps was MTSB a forever chemical?
Great lakes and rivers near cities, I’m guessing elsewhere is safe.
The EPA lies in order to build their power over our lives.
Our ability to detect extremely tiny amounts of chemicals is at an all time high.
This is scare mongering at its worst.
The dose makes the poison.
This is from the NSW ministry of health, in Australia, for a different point of view:
How do PFASs affect human health?
There is currently no consistent evidence that exposure to PFOS and PFOA causes adverse human health effects. However, based on the evidence from animal studies potential adverse health effects cannot be excluded.
The existing limited studies on PFHxS suggest that this chemical can cause effects in laboratory test animals similar to the effects caused by PFOS. However, based on available studies, PFHxS appears to be less potent in animal studies than PFOS.
Much of the research on humans has been done with people who were exposed to relatively high levels of PFASs through their work. Workers involved in the manufacture or use of PFASs usually have higher blood PFAS levels than the general public. Studies on PFAS workers have looked for effects on cholesterol levels, male hormones, heart disease, liver changes and other effects, including cancer. These studies have not consistently shown that PFAS exposure is linked to health problems.
Does exposure to PFASs cause cancer?
In humans, there is no conclusive evidence that PFASs cause any specific illnesses, including cancer.
Studies in laboratory animals suggest that PFOS and PFOA may promote some cancers in those animals, but it is not clear if these results have any implications for human health.
No existing studies have found a causal link between exposures to PFOS and PFOA and cancer in humans. Occupational studies of workers involved in the manufacture or use of PFOS and PFOA have looked at whether PFOS and PFOA are linked with prostate, bladder, and liver cancer, with no consistent findings. However, additional health studies are ongoing to assess whether evidence for a causal link between PFASs exposure and cancer may exist. Hence the International Agency for Cancer Research (IARC) has classified PFOA as possible carcinogen (Class 2B), but PFOS has not been classified as yet.
Comment from Marktwain:
The point is, we can detect these chemicals at extremely tiny amounts, and there is no direct evidence of harm to humans at those amounts.
If there is a toxic effect, it is so tiny as to be extremely difficult to detect.
Tell that to all the dozens of Burmese and Yemeni immigrants I see daily fishing down at the shoreline on Lake Erie.
I get the American Chemical Society’s Chemical and Engineering News and every single issue has at least a small communication about these chemicals.
And the past few years a lot about microplastics.
Companies should really do long-term environmental testing on their products.
One of my professors in Packaging Engineering was into biodegradable packaging polymers for this very reason.
From the same people who wants us all to eat bugs.
They’re more confined and the Great Lakes have been dumps for people like Kodak and RG&E
Sure they are.
Just like the vaccines were “safe and effective “, right?
sounds fishy... 🤔
About the same as four or five vaxx shots.
It’s funny how my grandmother lived to be in her nineties, and and a lot of other relatives too, when they all ate fish from freshwater lakes. I think this is yet another attempt to destroy hobby fishing and hunting.