Conservative Inc And The Deal With The Daily Wire Devil (Buyout Conservative with $$$)

gab News ^ | January 20, 2023 | Andrew Torba

[Hostage]

An exceptionally well-written report by Andrew regarding the defiance of Steven who turned down $50 million.

[rarestia]

Sadly principles don’t often win. Crowder is a man of principle. That means something.

[Fido969]

A lot of conservative media has become watered down red-meat clickbait designed to distract.

[Bratch]

From sundance:

The Republicans want money. The Democrats want power.

The Republicans use power to get money. The Democrats use money to get power.

The ideology of the Democrats drives their donor funding. The donor funding of the Republicans drives their ideology.

[Hostage]

Excellent!

[Boomer]

Trust no one and carry a big stick... or something like that.

Truly, trusting any media company is a fools errand.

Elon Musk showed how one person (or company) with deep pockets can destroy, make worse, or improve any social media company but one day when it gets sold it may go the other way.

Gab is one of the best social media companies. I’m happy to see it sticking to Torba’s guiding principles of free speech. Unlike many entities he has not been corrupted by the lure of easy money.

“Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely”

[Yo-Yo]

I was on Crowder’s side of this argument until Steven released recorded phone calls with Boering.

That was a douche move.

I was a Mug Club member with The Blaze, but I’m not sure I’ll follow Crowder to his new platform or not.

[escapefromboston]

I’ve heard of this Crowder guy before but never listened to his radio show (or whatever it is).
Anyone here like the guy ? Is his show any good

[Hostage]

Who is Boering? What’s the story with the phone call recordings?

[SamuraiScot]

I was intrigued by the lede paragraph of the story, and I can see how the principle of tamed opposition could be operating here. But he then just repeats himself from there, while adding rants against Israel and the JEEEooos.

I hate to be a Grinch, and I love Crowder and will continue to do so. But as to Torba and Gab, which I hadn't yet read at any length, I'm quite disappointed. My Nut Meter pegged so badly I'll have to get a tech in here next week to reset it.

For all I know, what Torba is arguing in his vision of the ConservaSphere could be true, or mostly true. I've never heard that argument before. But Gosh, is he always like this? Dude, prove your case with the appearance of objectivity or close your mouth. You're smearing those who might agree with you--just by acting unhinged.

[suthener]

I have no interest in this but I did watch Jeremy do a video where he went line by line of the the agreement with Crowder. I have no perspective to judge fairness of the contract, but Jeremy putting the contract out in public does indicate he was negotiating in good faith. If Crowder doesn’t want to sign with them, he shouldn’t. Jeremy also mentioned several times that this about making money for his company. I just can’t see a problem with that.

[Alberta's Child]

As soon as I saw Crowder’s rant about the deal I thought his anger was misplaced. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with a company looking out for its financial interests and protecting itself in the event one of its lines of business gets shut down for reasons outside its control.

I am always reminded of a contract I was reviewing as part of a business deal some years ago. One provision of the contract was somewhat similar to what Crowder is complaining about … and I wanted it removed from the contract. When I told this to my lawyer, he said: “You may not like that item in the contract, but it’s not an unreasonable demand. If I was representing the other party in this contract I would never let them sign it without that provision.”

Both sides agreed to make a minor change to the provision, and everything worked out well in the long run.

[x]

Give me the $50 million and I’ll gladly turn over my social media accounts, my email contacts, and even my beloved mug.

[Chgogal]

The Left bought out Drudge and all Latin radio stations here in Florida to control thought.

[Hostage]

I don't believe Torba hates Jews. In fact im sure of it. He's a devoted Christian who is likely frustrated with the one-sided attacks on Christians.

Shapiro deserves a figurative kick in the arse:

Ben Shapiro was notoriously anti-Trump in 2016 when it mattered. He called the January 6th political prisoners’ evil’ and said they should “end up rotting in prison.” He made a case in front of his audience for “mandatory vaccinations” when people were losing their jobs and businesses for refusing to be lab rats. He has repeatedly shilled for endless foreign wars on behalf of Israel. The list goes on and on.

As for Jordan Peterson, he needs to feel Andrew's wrath. He sold himself out and became a hater of Christians. He and I are like-minded as to Muslims. I've tried hard to see coexistence with Muslims. It falls in the category of Jehovah Witnesses. After awhile, you just want them to go away.

But Peterson resorted to a$$-kissing his newly found Jewish benefactors. So Andrew called out his hypocrisy, that's fair game.

[glorgau]

He’s now the Dave Chappelle of conservative media!

[daniel1212]

Up to 350 to 500+ network requests (see top right on toolbar in image, under browser icons: In Firefox hit F12 key and then Network) in one minute for Gateway Pundit story on "Biden Will Require Essential Travelers Crossing US Land Borders..."

Usually GP shows about 200 so this must be a bigger story.

The story linked to from FR = 4 network requests:

The FR articles page, set (so to Settings) at 250 excerpts (up to 100 words each) per page = 3 network requests:

In Firefox hit F12 key and then Network then F5 then see Requests on bottom left) and wait about a minute

[Hostage]

You're focused on the smaller picture of a seemingly legit business proposition, which is fine, at the cost of missing the bigger picture.

Unfortunately, during my engineering and quant undergrad education, I had to be forced-educated to take a smattering of humanities courses, which I resisted until the last moment where the only thing left was to sign up for a year of History of Western Civilization.

Briefly, here's the takeaway:

Individuals view their day-to-day in weeks and months.

Entire societies play out in years and decades.

In other words:

A small picture of judgment focuses on the short-term.

A larger picture of historical judgment focuses on the long-term.

The time scale separates the two.

Roe v. Wade played out over a half century.

What to see is Torba calling attention to history in development of serpent behavior disguised in conservatism, slithering around strong MAGA voices, readying its fangs behind a seductive poisoning of large amounts of fiat.

Torba's thesis is, the conservative movement needs to resist demise by seduction.

Hard to do, but Donald Trump is a prime example, as is the example of this piece, Steven Crowder. There are many others. Need to highlight their defiance and sacrifice.

[Yo-Yo]

Who is Boering? What’s the story with the phone call recordings?

Jeremy Boreing is a co-CEO of The Daily Wire.

Here is Jeremy's response to Crowder's initial video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyCc5o1KDHU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyCc5o1KDHU

And here is Steven Crowder's response to Jeremy's explanation above that includes recorded phone calls:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG9BFUEoy1I

[Chuckster]

I’ve heard of this Crowder guy before but never listened to his radio show (or whatever it is). Anyone here like the guy ? Is his show any good

I think so. He's basically a comedian. Pretty edgy. He's the "Change my mind" guy.