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1 posted on 01/19/2023 12:21:33 PM PST by consult
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• We see where this goes. Another Z28.310 (Unvaccinated for COVID-19) entered the building. Never seen this before with prior vaccines. Actually adds suspicion and why does it matter at this point in time when we know the vaccine isn’t beneficial to anybody except the most frail in our society.
If asked, best to not comply by adding wrong data to the “system” and just saying yes, I got by last booster just a few weeks ago”.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services have announced three new diagnosis codes, including two for COVID-19 immunization status. The following codes will be available as of April 1:

ICD-10-CM Description

Z28.310 Unvaccinated for COVID-19

Z28.311 Partially vaccinated for COVID-19

Z28.39 Other under-immunization status

According to ICD-10-CM guidelines, clinicians may assign code Z28.310, “Unvaccinated for COVID-19,” when the patient has not received a dose of any COVID-19 vaccine. Clinicians may assign code Z28.311, “Partially vaccinated for COVID-19,” when the patient has received at least one dose of a multi-dose COVID-19 vaccine regimen, but has not received the doses necessary to meet the CDC definition of “fully vaccinated” at the time of the encounter. (For information on what constitutes “fully vaccinated,” visit the CDC’s website.) New code Z28.39 is for reporting when a patient is not current on other, non-COVID vaccines.

Per the ICD-10-CM table, “These codes should not be used for individuals who are not eligible for the COVID-19 vaccines, as determined by the health care provider.” The index and tabular addenda for the new diagnosis codes are also available on the CDC website.


2 posted on 01/19/2023 12:22:16 PM PST by consult
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I’m already on record as not, so GFY, ya tyrannical bastards!


4 posted on 01/19/2023 12:24:50 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Just don’t get a compound fracture or appendicitis


5 posted on 01/19/2023 12:25:10 PM PST by Nifster (OI see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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Treat these actions as if you’re life/well-being is being threatened. Call me paranoid — I really don’t GAF


6 posted on 01/19/2023 12:26:43 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Illinois has done this for close to 2 decades..


7 posted on 01/19/2023 12:26:46 PM PST by EVO X ( )
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Oh darn!


9 posted on 01/19/2023 12:30:31 PM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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I’ve been dodging this Wuhan Hoax as best I could for Three Years to Flatten the Curve ....FOADBIGPHARMA.


10 posted on 01/19/2023 12:33:06 PM PST by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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Wow. Big Pharma really has some clout with politicians. Wonder if any money ever exchanged hands? Hmmm...


13 posted on 01/19/2023 12:35:54 PM PST by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Poor 'lil Travon bees slamming dat white cracka'a head into dat sidewalk causin he be scared)
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14 posted on 01/19/2023 12:37:46 PM PST by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No China made, No Amazon)
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Since the ‘vaccines’ don’t vaccinate, it seems that there isn’t much to track.


15 posted on 01/19/2023 12:38:19 PM PST by BobL
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Folks should keep in mind that health systems get reimbursed by Fedzilla for providing meaningful use data.

If that’s the case here, too, then Big Med is selling out its patients.

Again.


17 posted on 01/19/2023 12:41:39 PM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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Insurance companies will use it to set rates.


18 posted on 01/19/2023 12:41:40 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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Z28.FOAD


22 posted on 01/19/2023 12:50:51 PM PST by fretzer
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If they ask whether I'm up to date on my vaccinations, I say "yes".
because the Covid shot is NOT a "vaccine".
23 posted on 01/19/2023 12:58:11 PM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
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It’s all about control and money.


26 posted on 01/19/2023 1:02:40 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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I was recently in overnight for an ecg and I don’t recall being asked my vax status.


29 posted on 01/19/2023 1:10:08 PM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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And then there's this nurse on Alex Berensens substack with this email to him: (which makes me question how "efficient" this new coding system will be).

Hi Alex -

As a nurse for over 20 years I can tell you it is DELIBERATE that hospitals DO NOT ASK about covid vaccination status. Epic (the most common hospital charting system) does not register shots given at pop up vaccination clinics, roving vans or pharmacies or from many other health organizations (as you noted).

MANY of my patients show covid vax status as 'unknown', but when I ask them many have already have 4 shots (the people in my state are ridiculously compliant). We have an extensive covid checklist that we ask all patients, even outpatients, before they enter the hospital - so whether it's a quick EKG or a huge surgery that's going to require a 4 day stay you get asked the 'covid questions'

do you have any of the following symptoms (lists every cold and flu symptom known to man).

have you been diagnosed with covid in the past 3 weeks

Do you have a covid test pending?

Have you been around anyone diagnosed with Covid in the past 3 weeks?

Have you left the state in the past 3 weeks?

I think that's all of them, god knows I should remember since I've asked this a thousand times now. What's a HUGE omission from this list is their Vax status (since the Medical Gods have decreed that they will save us all).

WHY wouldn't they ask that?

It's also interesting to note that the hospital I work for REQUIRES a covid test, not on every patient, but on patients that are going to be admitted to the hospital. Allegedly this is for 'safety' but that makes no sense. Picture this. I work in the surgery department. Our department handles both inpatients (people who stay the night) and outpatients (people who go home the same day of their procedure).

So you can come into the same giant pre-surgery room with all the other staff and patients and we don't test you UNLESS you will be staying the night. So if you have covid you are probably exposing at least 50 people as an outpatient. I think it must be linked to the financial reimbursements they are getting- they probably only get reimbursed for inpatients who test positive at this point. It would be interesting to know.

— Also, one of the HUGE contributing factors to the nursing shortage (aside from the hated vaccine mandates that everyone seems to have forgotten is still imposed on ALL health care workers- thanks Joe Biden) is the MASKS. It is TERRIBLY unpleasant to have to work all day, muzzled. Psychologically, it's awful. As a caregiver I cannot connect with my patients the way I used to, which is super depressing. They can't even see who I am.

Physically it's dreadful and stuffy and I'm pretty sure I'm inhaling bits of it deep into my lungs all day. I HATE them, and so does every other nurse, doctor, tec [hospital technician], aide etc etc that I know. I'm not even talking about the horrid N95's which are actually PAINFUL to have on your face for more than about 10 minutes.

The CDC withdrew the guidance to make hospital staff mask (at all) and are leaving it up to the hospitals. So, in case you wanted to know, that might be the single biggest factor in the vast number of health care workers resigning currently IMO and no one seems to be getting it.

Anyway, this is just a jaded nurse ranting late at night. Thank you for all you do, you have given me hope in my darkest times. Thank you for having the courage and character to tell the truth. The world needs more people like you. We need people who have a fucking spine.

Wishing you every success,

XXX

— PS

Refusing the covid vaccine even though I thought I would probably lose my career and be living under a bridge helped me grow a spine. I somewhat miraculously secured a religious exemption. However this means I'm tied to the hospital I currently work at, so my career is at a dead end unless mandates are lifted. In the event I get fired, my career is over. No hospital will hire anyone without a vaccine. You can really only get an exemption if you are ALREADY hired. This is what it means for those of us who refused. If we need to move or if we get fired we are well and truly fucked.

However, I am more grateful every day I didn't get the jab. Refusing it was, and continues to be, "character building" as they say.


44 posted on 01/19/2023 2:02:22 PM PST by Mama Shawna
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666


46 posted on 01/19/2023 2:28:55 PM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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Wow. There are so many interesting quandaries presented by this that I don’t know where to begin.

My understanding, not from this article because I admit to not having read it, from a different article on the subject, is that that code is followed by numbers added to it to indicate that the patient has or has not had the first set of Covid vaxseems, the first booster, the second booster, etc. My reading of descriptions of the codes suggest, at the very least, there are three- un/never vaccinated, partially vaccinated, and up to date vaccinated.

I reckon that we are soon coming up to the point that the bivalent booster will be “ruled” as out of date if it was obtained more than 5 months ago. Big Pharma has campaign funding bills to pay, after all.

I say this all presents an interesting opportunity for an AG to subpoena medical records and review them to determine if there is a relationship between vaxx status and recently diagnosed new cardiac and other conditions. Said AG could also subpoena insurance company records insofar as insurance companies must be doing their own data analytics to determine links between vaxx status and conditions so that they can price this into their rates when it comes to group insurance renewal time.

By the way, I wonder what the group rates are like for hospitals (most mandated the vaxseem for employees) versus some blue collar company that employs, say, fabricators and whose employer never made them get jabbed.

What are the average amounts in claims by policy holders at the hospital in Town A and the factory across the street from it in 2019, 2020, 2021, and 2022?


48 posted on 01/19/2023 2:58:52 PM PST by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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"Have you had your updates?!!!"


57 posted on 01/20/2023 9:14:53 AM PST by 444Flyer (John 3, Revelation 20, Joshua 24:15, 1 Kings 18:16-39, Pick a side...)
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