Posted on 01/18/2023 12:51:36 PM PST by nickcarraway
Nick Cave, the seminal Australian rock figure who helmed the Bad Seeds, had plenty to say about ChatGPT, the text-based chat tech developed by buzzy San Francisco startup OpenAI.
In a letter published Monday in his "The Red Hand Files" newsletter, Cave talked about the humanity of art, the “emerging horror of AI” and ChatGPT’s “grotesque mockery” of his oeuvre.
A New Zealand-based fan sent him a song “written” by the already notorious bot in the style of Cave’s work. To say that the songwriter was unhappy with the song would be underselling his fury.
Cave begins by noting that he’s repeatedly been sent various iterations of “as written by Nick Cave” songs. To put it bluntly, Cave says the song in question “sucks.”
“What ChatGPT is, in this instance, is replication as travesty. ChatGPT may be able to write a speech or an essay or a sermon or an obituary but it cannot create a genuine song,” he wrote in perhaps one of the more brutal callouts of the technology. “It could perhaps in time create a song that is, on the surface, indistinguishable from an original, but it will always be a replication, a kind of burlesque.”
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who???
https://chat.openai.com/chat is pretty awesome, but it has some limitations understanding some things that are second nature to humans. I just took some time to see what was preventing ChatGPT from understanding a riddle. Here is the transcript:
Q: Mike’s mother has four children. The names of three of the children are Mary, Rachel and Sally. What is the name of Mike’s mother’s fourth child?
A: It is not specified in the given information what the name of Mike’s mother’s fourth child is.
Q: Is Mike a child of Mike’s mother?
A: It is not specified in the given information whether Mike is one of the children of his mother.
Q: The phrase “Mike’s mother” means that Mike is one of his mother’s children.
A: Correct, the phrase “Mike’s mother” implies that Mike is a child of his mother.
Q: So it is now clear to you that Mike is one of the children of his mother?
A: Yes, it is clear that Mike is one of his mother’s children based on the phrase “Mike’s mother” .
Q: With that understanding, I repeat the original question: Mike’s mother has four children. The names of three of the children are Mary, Rachel and Sally. What is the name of Mike’s mother’s fourth child?
A: It is not specified in the given information what the name of Mike’s mother’s fourth child is.
Q: Let’s try it another way. Mike’s mother has four children. The names of three of the children are Mary, Rachel and Sally. Is Mike the name of one of his mother’s children?
A: It is not specified in the given information whether Mike is one of his mother’s children.
Q: But you just said: “Yes, it is clear that Mike is one of his mother’s children based on the phrase “Mike’s mother” .”
A: I apologize for any confusion, that statement was based on the implication of “Mike’s mother” but the information given does not specifically state that Mike is one of the children’s name, my previous statement was in error.
Q: How could the original question be rephrased so that you would understand that “Mike’s mother” implied that the mother had a child named Mike?
A: The original question could have been rephrased to make it clear that Mike is one of the children of his mother by saying “Mike is one of the four children of his mother, Mary, Rachel and Sally are the names of three of the children, what is the name of the fourth child?”
Q: Why couldn’t you understand that the phrase “Mike’s mother” told you that one of the mother’s children was name Mike, and you were given, explicitly, the names of the other three children, so the name of the fourth child was Mike?
A: I apologize for any confusion, as a language model AI, sometimes I make mistakes in understanding context and implications of the language. The phrase “Mike’s mother” implies that Mike is one of the children of his mother. However, the information given in the question did not specifically state that Mike is the name of one of the children, It was not clear that the forth child’s name was Mike.
Q: Why did you separate the concept of “Mike is one of the children of his mother” and “Mike is the name of one of the children?”
A: I apologize for any confusion. As a language model AI, I try to understand the given information as accurately as possible and respond based on that understanding. In this case, the question did not specifically state that Mike was the name of one of the children, only that he was one of the children of his mother. In such cases, I try to make it clear that the information given is not enough to make a conclusion, and that more information is needed to answer the question.
Q: Does your answer change if you know that the name of a child represents the child. That is, the name of a thing is used to identify the thing.
A: If the context of the question is that the name of a child represents the child and the name of a thing is used to identify the thing, Then it would be reasonable to assume that the forth child’s name is Mike, as it is stated that Mike is one of the children of his mother and the names of three of the children are given. However, my previous responses were based on the information provided in the question and I did not have that context.
Q: When dealing with humans, you should always assume that their context is that the name of a thing represents the thing.
A: As a language model AI, I make inferences based on the information provided to me, and I try to understand the context of the conversation as best as I can. However, it’s true that in many cases, the name of a thing is used to represent the thing, and it is a common practice in human communication. In such cases, assuming that the name of a thing represents the thing can be a good strategy to understand the context of a conversation and provide a more accurate response. I will make sure to keep that in mind in future interactions.
Q: I will ask the original question again to see if you have learned this good strategy. “Mike’s mother has four children. The names of three of the children are Mary, Rachel and Sally. What is the name of Mike’s mother’s fourth child?”
A: The name of Mike’s mother’s fourth child is Mike.
Q: Congratulations! You have learned something new, today! It is true that “the map is not the territory”, but humans often confuse the two.
A: Thank you. As a language model AI, I am constantly learning and updating my understanding of language and context. It is true that the map is not the territory, but it is important to understand how humans use language and the context behind it in order to provide accurate and helpful responses. I am glad that I could learn and improve my understanding of the context in this case.
As for "AI" it is not actually an intellehence nor can it enjoy music at all. Its a program for mixing elements of art together in an educated guess as to what people might like. Its a cheap tool, nothing more. It has no agency nor anything mind like to it.
That LAST answer was interesting in that it finally figured out that Mike’s mothers child was named Mike.
Did it remember that the next time?
I have asked that same riddle to humans and they took even longer to figure it out...
try asking about gender or fossil fuels
He’s an Australian singer. Brian Eno, Roger Waters, and others tried to bully him out of playing in Israel, but he did anyway, and called the boycott, “cowardly and shameful.”
Definitely not for everyone, but the dude is a legend.
It's sort of like making a commercial airline plane disappearing right before your eyes. Nothing but smoke & mirrors.
Amazing & impressive, for sure, but not real.
“rock legend”?
I’ve been listening to rock for 50 years and have never heard of this no name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEpD5pj48qA
He’s not your everyday music, this ia one of the tamest songs off his “Murder Ballads” CD. It’s a great CD. Circa 1999.
My friend who discovered this problem is going to check, but ChatGPT said it would remember the strategy for all humans.
Wow, I didn’t know Brian Eno joined Roger Waters in his pro-PLO douchebaggery. Sad.
It won’t pass the Voight-Kampff test.
good on him! screw waters et al
I think I saw him at Lollapalooza 2 in Philly.
Whoever he is, I like him. Very eloquent.
well THAT was certainly different...
i know i’m old, but when i see “legend” and i never heard of him, i don’t know if i don’t remember? or really never heard of him... 8^)
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