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Octavian, Mark Antony, and Cleopatra at the Battle of Actium
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Posted on 01/09/2023 11:04:56 AM PST by SunkenCiv

By the first century BCE, Rome had gained control of the entire Mediterranean, but those conquests had been accompanied by a century of civil war that witnessed the assassination of politicians on all sides of the political spectrum. At one point, the adherents of one populist politician marched on Rome's temple of Castor and Pollux, which was closely associated with the Senate, and tore up the temple steps. This period of nearly continuous warfare would not end until 31 BCE, when Julius Caesar’s nephew Octavian vanquished the combined forces of Mark Antony and the Egyptian queen Cleopatra at the battle of Actium in northwestern Greece. This talk reviews the events leading up to the conflict, the circumstances of the battle itself, and the relationship between Egypt and Rome thereafter.
Octavian, Mark Antony, and Cleopatra at the Battle of Actium
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KEYWORDS: ancientnavigation; battleofactium; cleopatra; cleopatravii; egypt; godsgravesglyphs; markantony; octavian; romanempire; triumvirate
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To: SunkenCiv

Immortal longings.


21 posted on 01/09/2023 12:14:54 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: PIF
Actual, the screen grab that I posted from the series Rome shows the characters Marc Antony, Octavian, and his mother Atia of the Julii.

They had Cleopatra played by this actress:


I have noticed that almost all romans on the old coins looked practically deformed. Big noses, sloped forheads, various over or undersized chins. But the romans depicted in sculptures were usually somewhat less unattractive.
22 posted on 01/09/2023 12:26:36 PM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: pierrem15

I was miffed because I thought a lot was cribbed from The First Man in Rome series of novels, but I thoroughly enjoyed it.

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Like most series on HBO and Showtime (such as game of thrones, etc) they got intentionally lurid with the sex and the graphic violence, which doesn’t particularly bother me personally, except that it cheapens the quality of the product, in my opinion. I did like following the characters. I found Titus Pullo to be more sympathetic than Lucios Vorenus, and I was rooting for Octavian (Augustus) even though he really was a whiny bookworm who needed to grow up (and he did)


23 posted on 01/09/2023 12:45:54 PM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for posting this. I watched the video. It’s very interesting. (I never really thought I understood the Battle of Actium and the Roman civil wars before.)


24 posted on 01/09/2023 1:22:44 PM PST by Savage Beast (Americans DESPISE the corrupt elites, their media toadies and their corruption of the US government!)
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To: SunkenCiv

“BCE” = I’m not even slightly interested.


25 posted on 01/09/2023 2:22:16 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (No Doubt Now: Stolen Election)
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To: z3n

I think I remember reading that Caesar described Cleopatra as being red-headed. I guess he should have known.


26 posted on 01/09/2023 3:05:43 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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The proper names didn't come through capitalized, I changed maybe two, then Notepad went cuckoo. Anyway, this is the text auto-generated by YouTube. I edited farceless into Pharsalus.
Transcript
0:15and now it's my great pleasure to introduce our speaker dr brian rose with whom i know many of you are already
0:21familiar thanks to his truly tireless efforts on behalf of both the penn museum and the field of archaeology as a
0:27whole brian is the james b pritchett professor of archaeology in the department of classical studies here at penn and the
0:33peter c ferry curator in charge of the mediterranean section of the museum he was also my predecessor's deputy
0:40director and during his time in this position uh brian actually started created the greats lecture series which
0:46has turned out to be such a success uh brian has degrees from haverford college and columbia university and has
0:52excavated extensively particularly in turkey at the sites of aphrodisias troy and Gordion
0:58this last being one of the museum's major ongoing excavations in addition to excavating brian
1:05publishes assiduously and prolifically and with an incredible range of excavation reports to his name including
1:12several of the final reports on troy which are either authored or edited by him and among his many publications his
1:18book the archaeology of greek and roman troy provides an extensive introduction to all that is known about the site in
1:23those periods brown was also the curator of a major exhibit of archaeological materials from
1:30turkey the golden age of midas which ran from february november 2016 to
1:36great success and acclaim um and his outrage
1:41outrage at outreach activities there's no outrage activities with brent uh his outreach activities and service to the
1:48profession are similarly extensive ranging from the kind of presentation we're about to hear from him tonight to
1:54the education of u.s servicemen about ancient near eastern archaeology and history and the importance of cultural
1:59heritage preservation awareness he was the president of the archaeological institute of america from
2:052007 to 2011 and was awarded the gold medal for distinguished archaeological achievement by the selfsame aia in 2015.
2:13he is now in his sixth year as president of the american research institute in turkey and was named to the monk to the
2:20prestigious montgomery fellowship at dartmouth in fall 2021
2:26so i know we're all looking forward to hearing from brian about great revolutionaries octavian mark
2:31anthony and cleopatra at the battle of actium so please join me in welcoming him
2:37[Applause]
2:45all right thank you steve and thanks to all of you for coming today both virtually
2:50and physically it's wonderful not to lecture to an empty auditorium i have the pleasure today of speaking
2:57about the battle of actium which was the last great naval battle in antiquity and
3:03also the beginning of what we think of as the roman empire starting with octavian or augustus as he would later
3:10be called but the battle of actium comes at the end of nearly a century of civil
3:16war civil war it certainly was the battle of actium between octavian and mark anthony but this follows a whole
3:22chain of civil wars starting in the late second century bc and continuing up to
3:28the battle of actium in 31 bc so i'll take you through the history of the
3:33civil wars over the course of that century and then i'll try to explain how the
3:39battle of actium and egypt transformed the cityscape of rome itself
3:45first i will give you a remedial course very short remedial
3:50course in the history of rome for those of you who don't spend your days thinking about it as i do
3:57the romans believe that they were descended from the trojans from the trojan hero aeneas who escaped the
4:03burning city of troy prior to its destruction in the early 12th century bc
4:09and gradually made his way from northwest asia minor where troy is located to central italy and you see
4:17here a coin of augustus with aeneas his father and his son in the process of
4:22leaving troy so at origin the romans were trojans
4:28and then after aeneas founds a new city which is not rome it's another city
4:33called livinium in the same area we have a period of 400 years prior to the
4:40actual founding of rome by romulus traditionally dated to april 21st 753 bc
4:48and of course you're seeing the famous group of the wolf with romulus and remus underneath
4:54which was set up in the roman forum around 300 bc so aeneas and romulus are
5:00at the origin of the story of the romans and of rome itself we can divide rome
5:06into four periods archaic rome from the foundation date of 753 to the end of the
5:13period of rome of the kings in 509 so a period of roughly 250 years
5:20then republican rome starting in 509 lasting for about 500 years until the
5:27battle of actium which is what we're going to be speaking of tonight occurred in 31 bc and again that starts the roman
5:35empire or historians technically start the roman empire at that date which
5:40would last for just over 300 years until 3 30 a.d
5:45until constantine in the early 4th century moves the capital of the empire
5:51from rome to constantinople now istanbul and that will begin the byzantine empire
5:57which will last for 1100 years until the fall of the city in 1453.
6:04rome constantinople therefore was regarded as the second rome and
6:09ironically after the fall of constantinople moscow would begin calling itself the third
6:16rome very much in the news these days in the course of the republic
6:22the fourth third second and early first centuries bc rome expands throughout the
6:28mediterranean gradually encompassing northern europe sorry um the iberian
6:36peninsula north africa as well as greece and asia minor
6:42the wars in asia minor at carthage you're familiar with under the rubric punic wars and it was during
6:50the second punic war when rome fights the great hero hannibal that scipio
6:55africanus the great general of rome emerges triumphant over the carthaginian
7:00forces and again gradually every every um
7:06part every component of the mediterranean comes under roman control so by about a hundred bc the
7:13mediterranean is controlled by rome and you start seeing victory temples
7:20set up throughout rome in the late fourth third second and first centuries
7:26bc we call these minubial temples because they're constructed with the spoils
7:31that have been taken from the battlefield from the enemy cities these are majestic temples
7:38built initially of travertine limestone
7:43and tufa and as of the second century bc of marble which had to be imported from
7:49greece and asia minor we only have one of these minubial temples one of these
7:54victory temples surviving intact which you see here on the banks of the tiber
7:59the so-called temple of hercules victor some of you are familiar with it from the audrey hepburn gregory peck film
8:06roman holiday audrey hepburn rides a vespa around it but this is representative of the kind of victory
8:13temples that the romans would typically construct immediately following their victories
8:19so it's 100 bc ish and the entire mediterranean is under roman control
8:26those who were in the elite of rome are looking good and feeling prosperous
8:31but the veterans were not many of the soldiers rome soldiers were killed
8:37on the battlefield and what happened to the farms that were part of their property
8:43generally the elite of rome would buy the farms and the lands at a discount
8:50rate really at almost as if in a fire sale and the wives and children often ended up in
8:58poverty they would lose the farm because the wealthy would not keep the family of the former veterans on the farm they
9:05would staff it with slaves and the wives of the now dead soldiers
9:10and their children were left to fend for themselves so there's a growing divide between the
9:18elite and the plebeians in rome were the the rich and the poor as we go through the
9:24civil wars of the first century bc it will be very much a war between
9:30the populists if you will the left and the elite the conservatives on the right
9:37plush plus shows we see this continuing until the present day and into this situation
9:44where the poor were experiencing injustice after injustice in their minds
9:50stepped a tribune named tiberius gracas who became tribune in 133 bc
9:58and came from an incredibly prestigious family he was the grandson of scipio
10:03africanus the hero in the wars against hannibal in the late third century bc
10:09and he began to propose a redistribution of the lands that had been bought that
10:15had been in the course of acquisition by the elites so he wanted to put a limit
10:21on the amount of property that the elites could own and wanted to redistribute public land to the poor
10:29farmers to those who were in the minority as far as the elites were concerned
10:35this was a radical revolution very much a revolution
10:40in social policy and the senate was furious many of the
10:45senators of course were the wealthy landowners who were going to be deprived of the lands that they had acquired from
10:52these impover impoverished farmers if the legislation of tiberius gracos went
10:57through and so he was in short order club to death on the capitoline hill i'm showing
11:05you the capitoline hill here with its trademark feature the temple of jupiter optimus maximus
11:12and his supporters 300 of his supporters were killed and their bodies were thrown
11:18in the tiber river which reportedly turned red with their blood
11:23so the reforms that he had hoped to incorporate into roman society
11:29were unsuccessful however 10 years later his brother gaius
11:34became tribune and tried to do the same thing even more
11:39in an even more comprehensive way than his brother had tried to do so land
11:45redistribution but also a major infrastructure program which we've just seen in the news new
11:52roads and bridges as well as subsidized grain subsidized military equipment and
11:57again redistribution of public land to the poor once again the senate was infuriated by
12:04this and a civil war developed in short order
12:10grock has committed suicide and 3 000 of his supporters were killed and their
12:16bodies once again thrown in the tiber river which again turned red with their blood it was at
12:23that moment after the death of gaius gracchus and his partisans that the
12:29senate and in particular the consul opius decides to build in the forum a temple
12:35to concord celebrating the peace and harmonious relationships that exist
12:40between left and right between the populace and the conservatives now that was fictive there was no harmonious
12:48relationship between them they were trying to kill each other and had succeeded in doing so
12:53but this is what one would call truthiness it's not necessarily true
12:59it's just marketed in a certain way and indeed after the temple of concord
13:04went up on the western side of the roman forum which you see here in reconstruction and here in an
13:10axonometric drawing according to plutarch someone set up a sign
13:16in front of the temple of concord saying a work of discord produces a temple of concord so this new temple enjoyed a
13:24very frosty reception among the romans because they could see that it was
13:29in effect an architectural lie celebrating a union that didn't exist
13:36meanwhile there were plenty of foreign wars during this period one in particular that was especially
13:41cataclysmic involving the king mithridates of pontus mithra mithridades
13:47vi who traced his descent from the royal line of the persians on one side and
13:54from alexander the great on the other side so he was a kind of amalgamation of east
14:01and west and in tracing his descent from the macedonian royal family he was able
14:06to trace his descent back to hercules so you see a portrait of mithridates here
14:12wearing the lion skin of hercules on his head as his ancestor alexander the great
14:18would also do from time to time mithridates wanted to create a new kingdom in the east that would rival
14:26that of rome and which would be based around the black sea encompassing the
14:31north side of the black sea including the crimean peninsula and
14:36regions that are still experiencing armed conflict even now as
14:41we sit here in this auditorium since this is southern ukraine and then joining that to asia minor and
14:49other territories in the eastern mediterranean on one day reportedly according to the
14:55ancient historians over 80 000 romans and italians were killed by the
15:00partisans of mithridates vi so it was necessary for the romans to
15:05act in order to protect roman interests in the east in particular in the region
15:11around the black sea and entering into this situation were two of the most powerful men of the
15:18early first century bc marius who whose portrait in antiquity is is still
15:24a question mark so i'm showing you an early 19th century painting of him marius was a populist
15:31and then sulla this is an actual coin of the 80s bc showing an equestrian statue
15:37of salah that stood in the roman forum he was a conservative he was on the senatorial side they are among the
15:44strongest men they are the strongest men in the first two decades of the first
15:49century bc salah was given the roman command to go
15:55off and fight mithridates vi but when sallah was out of rome marius engineered
16:01the transfer of that command to another to another general
16:07and sola infuriated marched on the city of rome as caesar would do 40 years later no one
16:14had ever no roman had ever marched on the city of rome before and taken it by force
16:20but that is what sulla does in in 88 bc marching on rome declaring marius an
16:26enemy of the state he had managed to escape before sula entered the city
16:32and there were mass executions of those who were partisans of marius
16:40meanwhile sulla then takes the command back goes off to asia
16:47minor to fight mithridates of pontus and relatively quickly scores a victory it
16:53wouldn't last but for the moment it was a victory during the period in which solo was gone
17:00marius came back to rome declared salah an enemy of the state and executed the partisans of salah
17:08cutting off their hands and displaying the severed hands on the rostra the
17:14speaker's platform in the roman forum i'll often speak of the rostra in the
17:19course of our lecture tonight rastra takes its name from the shipbeaks
17:25these prows of ships that were inserted into the rostra already in the late fourth century bc as
17:32a signal of the roman naval victory in this case a naval victory over the sam
17:38knights in the sam knight wars of the late 4th century bc but you need to imagine these severed hands being
17:45displayed on the rostra as a warning to the people of rome not to
17:51subscribe to the political policies of salah or to sallah
17:56himself salah meanwhile after his victory comes
18:01back to rome and in 82 six years after he marched on rome he
18:06does it again marching on rome taking it again by force and executing the partisans of
18:14marius marius had already died by this point but his son is still in power uh and
18:20sulla defeats them taking the severed heads of his enemies and again displaying them on the rostra
18:28we hear of a particularly gruesome event battle of the colleen gate in 82 bc
18:34where sula executes 3 000 of the soldiers who had fought with the forces
18:40of marius and the ancient historians described the screams that could be heard in the senate house as the 3 000
18:47men are killed their heads cut off and displayed on the rostra
18:52sulla would die and there would be other in the early 70s but there this period of of conflict
19:01between left and right between populous and conservatives would continue
19:06and it would also continue to involve the tribunes like gaius and tiberius
19:12gracchus one of them is named clodius and in the 50s
19:19he realized that he could assemble street militias
19:26of his partisans and get them to attack public monuments
19:32in order to show the level of power that he wielded
19:37and so on one occasion in 58 bc he sends his mob
19:43to the temple of caster and pollux in the roman forum
19:48and this was a temple where the senate would often meet the senate had a
19:54specific senate house in the roman forum the so-called curia but they would also meet in other temples from time to time
20:01so it was a temple that was directly associated with the senate and clodius has them attack
20:08this senate affiliated complex and tear up the steps
20:14of the temple later on after clodius is murdered
20:21his body is carried by his partisans to the roman forum to the senate house to the curia
20:28which you see here and they use the curia as the pyre for
20:34the body of clodius so they burn the senate house as they send the body of clodius off into the
20:40afterlife completely destroyed
20:46into this fray steps the so-called first triumvirate and now we're getting into
20:52names that you know well i would say um poppy poppy the great poppy magnus
20:59who had served under salah and who was
21:04the first man in rome to build a permanent stone theater the theater of poppy to which we will return in a few
21:10minutes marcus licenius crassus who was famous
21:16for having been victorious in the war against spartacus the third slave war or
21:22the third civil war you're all familiar with spartacus judging by the age range in this
21:28audience from the kirk douglas film in the late 1950s he's the one who dispatched spartacus
21:35and then julius caesar the most famous the man who would become the most famous of these three who was the nephew of
21:42marius so they didn't all focus on the same political philosophy they were not
21:48united by political philosophy they were united by their recognition that they
21:53had complementary strengths and would be stronger as a triumvirate than they would be as separate leaders and they
22:01divided up much of the roman world poppy taking spain crassus taking syria
22:08and caesar taking gaul in order to make the triumvirate
22:13stronger the daughter of caesar was married to pompey this was frequently done
22:20in the hellenistic kingdoms of the eastern mediterranean it was done throughout the first millennium bc
22:26actually and into the first millennium a.d to have to um
22:31to strengthen a political alliance through the marriage of the daughter or son of one of the leaders with the
22:38daughter or son of one of the other leaders with whom the first leader had formed an alliance and that is the case
22:44here with poppy and caesar this triumvirate really lasts only for
22:50seven years and would quickly fall apart after poppy's wife dies pompey's wife this
22:57daughter of caesar dies and meanwhile crassus moves out of the triumvirate when he is
23:03killed in what is now southeastern turkey so i'm showing you where crassus goes
23:10sorry to the to the
23:16region of the turkish-syrian border the modern town of haran ancient karai
23:23where crassus begins a battle against the parthians the fiercest foes of the
23:28romans in 53 bc and suffers a tremendous defeat
23:34he is killed over a hundred roman standards roman battle flags are taken
23:40by the parthians back to modern-day iran and so are many of the roman soldiers
23:47twenty thousand are estimated to have died ten thousand roman soldiers are taken
23:53prisoner back to parthia western iran today and they stayed there
23:58for 33 years until augustus initially octavian brought them back and
24:05some of the soldiers actually committed suicide rather than return to rome think of it you're a roman soldier you've been
24:11taken at the age of 20 to parthia to western iran you've married a parthian
24:16woman you've had children who speak the language of parthia they're not speaking latin and you have
24:22become parthianized and suddenly 33 years later augustus comes and says
24:28everyone go back to rome and that was simply too much for the soldiers and too much for the families of the
24:34soldiers but in any event many were lost during this battle that crassus leads
24:39and with crassus out of the way the first triumvirate quickly unravels
24:46in short order julius caesar will march on rome against poppy
24:51in 49 bc doing the same thing that sulla had done nearly four decades earlier
24:58pompey escapes and there is ultimately a battle in thessaly in central greece the
25:04battle of [Pharsalus] where pompey's forces are defeated they had set up a naval blockade but caesar's
25:12forces were successful in negotiating that blockade and getting to central greece
25:18poppy as i said escapes and goes to egypt where he's hopeful of forming an
25:26alliance with the egyptian king ptolemy the 13th
25:31who puts pompey to death and when caesar gets there
25:36shortly thereafter ptolemy the 13th presents the severed head of poppy to caesar as a sign of his
25:43allegiance to caesar and caesar was reportedly horrified and gives poppy a roman burial
25:50with all two honors but in the course of his interaction with ptolemy the 13th in
25:55alexandria he met cleopatra and they formed their own alliance both
26:02political and romantic you're seeing here one of the portraits of cleopatra that has survived cleopatra
26:09vii wearing the royal diadem you will already have noticed that she looks nothing like elizabeth
26:16taylor in the 1963 film cleopatra nor for that matter to caesar resemble rex
26:22harrison nor for that matter does mark anthony resemble richard burton but nevertheless they're the ones who have
26:28made the story widespread at least to north american audiences
26:34cleopatra would bear a child to caesar the only known biological child of caesar again
26:43as far as we know this was caesarean so cleopatra names her son caesarion after
26:50caesar and you see them here presented on one of the reliefs of the temple of hathor at dandera in south central egypt
26:59so little caesarean here who's born in 48 so 48-47 so he would have been about
27:06seven or eight years old here and as far as anyone knows as far as cleopatra is concerned she is going to
27:13raise him to be the successor of caesar after caesar dies which of course
27:21cleopatra hadn't been counting on she builds a temple to caesar in alexandria
27:27a temple to the divine caesar because caesar would be the first of the romans
27:32first of the roman leaders to be deified not exactly the same level as a roman
27:39god like jupiter or or neptune or mars the title would be
27:45diwoos d-i-v-u-s but nevertheless it was a considered a
27:50deification of a human and caesar was then presented as a god especially in
27:55the eastern mediterranean and this was a temple that celebrated that she put two obelisks at the
28:02entrance to the new temple complex pulled from an earlier complex that was
28:08set up by tutmosis iii in the early 15th century this recycling of obelisks is a
28:15common theme a common device both in antiquity and in the early modern period
28:20and keep these two obelisks in mind because i'm going to come back to them
28:26caesar meanwhile once he got back to rome after his uh alliance with cleopatra celebrated a quadruple triumph
28:35no one had ever done this before celebrating in one fell swoop try up over four different areas
28:42which would be gaul egypt his victory over ptolemy the 13th
28:47another victory in central asia minor over the sun of um
28:53of mithridates vi the man named fornicase and in north africa here where he's really going after the
28:59partisans of poppy but he presents it as a foreign war against the north african monarch juba
29:08caesar will after that assume the position of dictator and will hold it
29:13until his death until his assassination which of course occurred on march 15 44
29:19bc and the two lead assassins were brutus and cassius and they do the deed
29:25when the senate is meeting in the theater of poppy they can't meet in the old senate house because that's been
29:31burned down by the partisans of clodius who have used it as a pyre
29:36in 52 so it's still under construction that's why the senate has to meet in the theater of pompey and during that
29:43meeting brutus and cassius plunged their daggers into caesar as do others and caesar is assassinated
29:51brutus and cassius are forced to leave rome after that and they still strike coins as they move
29:58off into the eastern mediterranean one of which celebrates their assassination of caesar who is presented as a tyrant
30:06so you see the two daggers on this coin of brutus and cassius placed on either
30:11side of the cap of liberty the so-called peleus and then the date when the assassination occurred the ides of march
30:20march 15th and what they put on the obverse of the coin is the ancestor of
30:26brutus the original brutus who is the one who defeated the last etruscan king
30:32of rome in 509 bc and launch the republic so they're being presented as
30:38democratic heroes and tyrant slayers following the assassination of caesar in
30:4344. this leads to the creation of the second triumvirate
30:50three men who come together all of whom are partisans of caesar
30:56one of them is octavian who is his heir also his adopted son
31:01and as the adopted son of caesar he was able to claim the title son of a god or
31:08dewey filius as you see here d-i-v-i-f dewey filius i am the son of a
31:14god then mark anthony whom you know looking roggishly handsome on this coin
31:22who was also a strong partisan of caesar and lepidus who was the pontifex maximus the chief
31:29priest of the roman state they band together and also divide up
31:34the roman world with octavian taking north africa lepidus taking spain or iberia and
31:42southern france and mark anthony taking the eastern provinces the eastern
31:47mediterranean which of course involves egypt
31:53the three of them will band together against brutus and cassius and their followers at a battle in what is now
32:00macedonia greek macedonia uh the battle of philippi which occurs in 42 bc brutus
32:07and cassius as well as their partisans are either killed or captured and these three men now have control in essence of
32:14the mediterranean as
32:20the masters of the mediterranean the one thing that united them was the newly deified caesar and so that's the first
32:27monument they build in rome a temple to the dfi julius caesar the foundations of
32:33which still stand you see a reconstruction of it here with the inscription diwo yulio so the divine
32:39julius caesar who was represented as such on his coins this is a
32:45numismatic evocation of the temple of the divine julius caesar with a star
32:51burst in the pediment and that's based on a comet that appeared in the sky and was believed to
32:57have represented the soul of julius caesar rising to the heavens and so that becomes a symbol of the deified julius
33:04caesar you see it on a coin of octavian here dewey filius again i am the son of a god
33:11here's the starburst comet of the deified caesar and in case you've missed the point he writes it out on the
33:17reverse julius caesar is a god dewuss julius
33:25in order to strengthen the relationship between anthony and octavian again who
33:30would later take the name augustus there is another dynastic marriage
33:35so the sister of octavian octavia would whom you see here and also here would
33:43marry mark anthony and so you see this dynastic coupling on one of the coins
33:49struck in the east mark anthony octavian and octavia sister of augustus as the dynastic bond
33:58between the two men it had worked for a little while with caesar and pompey maybe it would work
34:03again but into this situation once again stepped cleopatra now remember that mark
34:11anthony is in charge of the eastern provinces which includes egypt so he is moving off to egypt and
34:17actually taking up residence in alexandria and by cleopatra he will produce three
34:25children who will be given territories
34:30belonging to rome in the eastern mediterranean belonging actually to rome and parthia and they weren't um mark
34:38anthony's to give but nevertheless he carves up the eastern mediterranean and
34:44in a a ritual called the donations of alexandria hands them out to the children
34:50of cleopatra and also um his own children although
34:55cesarion is also included in this donation of alexandria and they begin
35:00striking coins together with mark anthony on one side and cleopatra on the other
35:07octavian realizes that mark anthony is setting up a rival kingdom a kingdom
35:13that was intended to rival rome with caesarea and caesar's son in tow
35:18which could create serious problems for octavian and for rome
35:24meanwhile none of these people look anything like the characters in cleopatra okay this is the last poster
35:30of the 1963 film that i'm going to show you over time the relations between anthony
35:38and cleopatra deteriorate until they both realize there needs to be a final
35:43battle that will determine which of them rules the areas that had been in their
35:49jurisdiction this will take place once again in greece in what is now western greece
35:56northwestern greece the site of actium a battle that occurs in 31 bc
36:04this is where anthony brings both his army and his navy and his navy
36:10includes the ships of cleopatra and so they
36:15take up residence in the so-called ambrachian gulf just to the east of corfu
36:23augustus and his faithful lieutenant agrippa meanwhile move across the ionian
36:29sea to what is now north western greece and
36:34southern albania and move down where they set up a campsite which will
36:40ultimately become the city of necopolis city of victory and meanwhile agrippa takes ships across
36:47the sea right to the point where anthony and cleopatra have their fleet
36:54there is a major battle that occurs on september 2nd of 31 bc
37:01and as you can imagine as you know ultimately and um octavian and agrippa
37:06emerge victorious over the forces of anthony and cleopatra who actually run
37:12away from the battlefield cleopatra was no fool and could see that things are getting out of control so she and her
37:19fleet set sail for alexandria and anthony follows her leaving his own
37:25ships to continue the battle anthony had many many ships many strong
37:31ships but they were big ships they were difficult to maneuver
37:36and anthony no longer had enough men to staff them because there were a lot of
37:42desertions on anthony's side augustus or octavian had waged a very successful propaganda campaign
37:48saying you romans who fight for anthony you are not romans you were fighting for a foreign queen an egyptian queen
37:56against the side of rome and that worked with many of the soldiers who were partisans of anthony
38:02they deserted there was also disease that had spread among anthony's
38:09camp so he couldn't staff all of the boats and the boats that he could staff were too heavy to be
38:15as nimble as the fleet of octavian
38:21so anthony and cleopatra go off to alexandria octavian and agrippa declare
38:26victory and begin striking coins that highlight the victory
38:31usually showing a crocodile as the symbol of egypt so here is one issue
38:37from uh the provincial mint of neem in southern france ancient nemosis showing uh
38:44anthony anthony showing octavian and agrippa on one side and then the
38:50crocodile symbolizing a conquered egypt and a laurel crown of victory to the
38:56side on the other you just get the crocodile again symbolizing egypt and the legend
39:03or the inscription egypt i gupto copte egypt has been brought under the dominion of the roman
39:10people which is a phrase that we'll hear over and over again anthony and cleopatra managed to survive
39:17in alexandria for nearly another year until octavian goes to alexandria
39:24both of them commit suicide and by august of 30 bc
39:29early august of 30 bc octavian is the master of the mediterranean
39:35he decides to build a memorial at the site where the battle of actium had occurred to commemorate his tremendous
39:42victory and founds a new city necopolis city of victory nikkei is the greek word
39:49for victory also the source of the shoes that are often mispronounced nike one
39:55wants to say nikkei which is the correct pronunciation so a new city that's founded here and a
40:01victory monument a triumphal monument some of which still survives so you're seeing here the podium
40:08of that monument and these rostra these ship beaks
40:14made of bronze taken from the navy of marc anthony and cleopatra just as the
40:20romans had taken them from the same nights in the early 4th century bc and adorned the speakers platform the rastra
40:28in the roman forum you're seeing here a reconstruction of the front of the podium of that
40:35triumphal monument as well as the inscription which we can reconstruct imperator caesar the emperor caesar that
40:42would be octavian son of the divine julius victor in the war he waged on
40:48behalf of the republic so against egypt on behalf of the republic and this is presented as a
40:54foreign war what it was was a civil war anthony against octavian but it's presented as a
41:00war of rome against egypt again it's all in the marketing after peace had been secured on land and
41:07sea he consecrated this monument to mars and neptune god of war and god of the
41:13sea uh and adorned it with naval spoils that would be these rostra these bronze ship
41:20beaks to which i'll return in a minute we have an altar from that monument too
41:27that has been excavated and still isn't completely published but we know enough about it for a
41:33reconstruction to be presented you see the lower level consists of piles of
41:39enemy weapons these are of course egyptian weapons not roman weapons this
41:44was typical after a roman battle where you would gather the weapons of your enemy
41:49accumulate them in a big pile on the battlefield and then have a celebration interestingly when i was in southern
41:56afghanistan in 2012 i saw a big pile of russian tanks
42:04when we were going through the countryside and i said to i was with a contingent of the afghan army obviously
42:11everything has changed dramatically since 2012. but i said why do you have a pile of soviet tanks
42:16and he said well the soviets occupied afghanistan between 1979 and 1989 and
42:21after the soviets left we gathered all their tanks together into a kind of big pile and we had a party and i said you
42:27know the romans did that 2000 years ago which they hadn't known but it was just uh it's often part it's i guess second
42:34nature uh among a victor after a long uh battle or a long conquest
42:41so we have the weapons of the enemy here and above it we have relief decoration of augustus's triple triumph in 29 bc
42:50celebrating his victory at actium over cleopatra in egypt and another
42:56victory in illyria um modern-day yugoslavia or that general area on the other side
43:03of the on the east side of the adriatic so the triple triumph and in the triumph
43:09this is one of the reliefs from the altar you can see octavian riding in a chariot with two of the children of
43:16anthony and cleopatra these are alexander helios and cleopatra
43:22fellaini we knew from the ancient historians that augustus
43:27moved in the procession through the streets of rome with the children of anthony and cleopatra whom he treated
43:33with respect but we never thought that we would find a relief that would actually show that
43:40and included in the altar decoration are scenes from the origins of rome you see the wolf with romulus and remus here
43:47and the same sort of theme of peace on land and sea
43:54what's interesting about this triumphal procession is that you've got the children of anthony and cleopatra
44:00paraded in the procession near a float that had an image of
44:06cleopatra holding the asp that would bite her and send her off into the afterlife
44:14so the children are riding in a procession next to a float that shows their mother committing suicide
44:23now meanwhile what about the rostra i promise to return to those as i said the
44:28rostra in the roman forum celebrates the romans first naval victory in the sam
44:34knight wars in 338 bc at the battle of antiem this is anzio where of course
44:40there was another major battle in world war ii and we know something about the nature
44:47of these rostra because steadily we've been excavating rostra or rather i
44:52should say underwater archaeologists have been excavating rostra associated
44:57with boats that sank during naval battles one of them dating to the early hellenistic period the third or second
45:03century bc was excavated off the coast of israel 40
45:09years ago the so-called athlete ram weighing 465 kilos that's half a ton
45:16these are enormously heavy components this is the kind of thing that octavian
45:22would have inserted into the base of the platform of his enormous victory monument at uh actium
45:30and more recently just within the last 10 15 years new
45:36rostra have been excavated off the northwest coast of italy where the final
45:42naval battle of the first punic war between rome and carthage had occurred
45:47the battle of the the igetais islands in 41 bc where there were many boats belonging to
45:55the romans and the carthaginians that sank and underwater archaeologists are
46:00steadily excavating these rostra you see one on the seafloor here
46:05in right after it had been lifted from the sea floor uh and after conservation
46:11here so we're getting a sense of the variety and typology of ship rams as a
46:16consequence of these new excavations by underwater archaeologists and the shipbeaks would
46:22also be added to the temple of the divine julius caesar so this is
46:28the podium of the temple here's the starburst again and the pediment and you can see the six bronze ship beaks taken
46:36from cleopatra's navy so the temple of the divine julius caesar
46:41achieved two things it celebrated octavian or augustus as the son of a god
46:47and it also highlighted him as the victor at actium over the forces of
46:52cleopatra and again the whole thing is being marketed not as a civil war but as
46:57a war between rome and egypt this begins a process wherein rome
47:05becomes egyptianized as many of you know after a major war it's not uncommon for
47:13the decorative arts the material culture of the conquered region
47:18to influence heavily the decorative arts and material culture of the conqueror
47:24and so that was the case in rome as we find more and more egyptian elements
47:30spreading through the cityscape especially obelisks so when augustus builds his tomb in the northern campus
47:38marshes the mausoleum of augustus finished in 28 bc 42 years before
47:45octavian or augustus would actually die why not be prepared just in case he puts
47:52at the entrance of the obelisk entrance of the mausoleum to obelisks as well as
47:58his autobiography his race guest eye a list of all of the deeds that he had
48:03accomplished but these obelisks are standing as symbols of augustus's or octavian's
48:09conquest of egypt and those obelisks of course still survive one of the obelisks
48:16is in the piazza del esquilino next to santa maria majori the other on the quirinol in the
48:22palazzo del curinale these obelisks were enormous i've given
48:29you the measurements just over 14 meters high that's about as high as the ceiling
48:36in the upper egyptian gallery of this museum so that will give you a sense of their colossal nature
48:44another obelisk taken from egypt is set up again in the campus marshes and you know
48:51it now from piazza di mache monte chittorio but in antiquity it was used as what we
48:58call a gnomon a pointer of a giant clock that we usually refer to as the
49:04oralogium of augustus or the sundial of augustus which is a solar meridian clock
49:11of which our colleague lothar husselberger in the history of art department has written extensively this
49:18is set up in 10 bc and the shadow that it cast on a large
49:24network of lines would enable you to determine what time of day it was and
49:30what time of year it was here is the obelisk as it stands in
49:36piazza di monte chittorio now with the original inscription on the base which
49:42says the same sort of thing as that triumphal monument at necopolis egypt
49:47has been brought under the control under the jurisdiction of the roman people
49:52and he dedicates it to the sun god which is appropriate since it was originally
49:57created for the sun god of egypt in the late 1970s
50:05the german archaeological institute actually dug trenches in the campus
50:10marshes to see if they could find part of the pavement that was connected to this obelisk and they did miraculously
50:19because those of you who have been to rome which is probably everyone in this audience you know how densely occupied
50:26the campus marshes is it's one of the premier residential areas of the city so you have to dig through someone's
50:32basement in order to get down to imperial roman levels but they did it
50:37and you see the travertine pavement here with bronze inlay i've given you a
50:45drawing of it in the next slide so here is what they found and
50:51here is a reconstruction of the inscriptions which are in greek and here
50:57we're at the end of summer at tasia paolontai the adhesion winds cease stop
51:05blowing the adhesion winds are the winds that come in from africa
51:10many of you know the album by joni mitchell called blue in 1971 where
51:16there's a song called carrie that begins the winds are in from africa these are the adhesion winds and when they stop
51:23that signals the end of summer and we move into the zodiac sign of virgo which
51:29in greek would be parthenos which you see here this was a tremendous discovery and
51:35again it's all connected to one of these monumental obelisks that augustus has brought back from egypt and we start
51:41getting tombs in the shape of pyramids in egypt in egypt in rome during the
51:47augustine period one of which still survives intact this is the pyramid of cestius you see it here on the
51:55southwest side of rome i've drawn a red circle around it it still stands in near perfect
52:01condition you can see cestius's name still in good order on the side of the pyramid
52:08this is finished in the last two decades of the first century bc and it is one of two
52:16pyramids as a tomb that was built in rome at that point the other one is in
52:21vatican city you see it here on a plan next to the circus of caligula and nero
52:29which underlies saint peter's basilica so you see here these dotted lines this
52:35is saint peter's basilica built directly over the circus of caligula and nero
52:41where in antiquity they believed that saint peter had been martyred and just to the side of that
52:47you have the second pyramid which you see in some early modern engravings
52:54we don't have it anymore the stone was taken down to build the steps of saint peter's basilica so it's gone but
53:01nevertheless th this is another indication of the egyptianizing of rome
53:07and meanwhile in egypt augustus is treated just as a pharaoh would have been treated at least in
53:13terms of the decorative arts so if we were to look at the augustine period
53:18temple of dendor and you can see dender here right in the center of egypt next to lake nasser
53:25and you see it here where it now sits in the metropolitan museum of art in new york this is completed in 10 bc after
53:32augustus has defeated marc anthony and cleopatra and you see
53:37among the release of the temple you should see it there it is
53:43augustus himself who is presenting offerings to the egyptian gods thoth and to venice so
53:50augustus is presented looking like a pharaoh pharonic costume and phoronic
53:55style they simply pick up the traditional traits iconographic traits
54:01of kingship in egypt and apply them to augustus which is who now controls egypt
54:07as his own personal province meanwhile how does all this work or what
54:14memory do we have of all of this in the early modern and modern periods
54:20how is the battle of actium relevant and all of the elements that i've been talking about tonight i mentioned that
54:26the battle of actium is the last great naval battle in antiquity when do we get
54:31our next great naval battle 1571 the battle of lepanto with pope
54:38pius v leading a group of european allies against the ottomans and it's taking
54:45place just a stone's throw from where the battle of actium took place
54:51sixteen hundred years earlier so again plus challenge the more things change the more they stay the same
55:00the egyptianizing of a region that has waged war in egypt is also a common
55:07feature we see it with the campaigns of napoleon in egypt in the late 18th early
55:1319th century when after his campaigns in egypt he goes back to paris and paris
55:19experiences the same kind of egyptianizing that rome experienced in the late 1st
55:25century bc where you find obelisks you find clocks with sphinxes and fountains with sphinx
55:32decoration egyptianizing paris just like egyptianizing rome
55:39and what about the modern period do we still have rostral monuments we do
55:45all you need to do is go to new york city to columbus circle which is dominated by a rostral column in the
55:53center of the circle you see the rostra here the ship beaks which are the same
55:58kind of thing as those used by octavian or augustus in his necopolis victory
56:03monument this is set up in 1892 celebrating the 400th year anniversary
56:09of columbus's arrival in the new world
56:15what about the tearing up of the steps of a building used by the senate
56:20by a group of partisans associated with a populist politician
56:26when the january sixth attack on the capitol building in washington happened
56:32i doubt that many people thought this is just like what happened in 58 bc with
56:37the partisans of clodius but those of us who were archaeologists saw it as
56:42exactly the same thing
56:48i mentioned that you should keep in your minds the two obelisks that stood at the
56:53entrance to the sanctuary of the divine julius caesar in alexandria egypt in the
57:00late 1st century bc where are those obelisks now one is in london on the victoria
57:08embankment on the banks of the thames the other one is in central park both go
57:13by the name of cleopatra's needle both of them acquired from egypt in the late
57:1919th century and so the next time that you find yourself in central park
57:26and you see cleopatra's needle rising in front of you take a minute
57:32and think about caesar and marc anthony and octavian and
57:38cleopatra because the memories of all of them are incorporated into this monument
57:44and just by looking at it you can bring those memories back to life thank you for listening to me tonight
57:50thank you for your support of the penn museum thank you

27 posted on 01/09/2023 4:10:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Don’t let the door hit your butt on the way out.


28 posted on 01/09/2023 4:11:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: pgyanke

It’s 2023, and you are no longer relevant, or rather, never were.


29 posted on 01/09/2023 4:14:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Fiji Hill

There was nothing to fix, so you didn’t fix anything, but thanks for the spam.


30 posted on 01/09/2023 4:17:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Reily; Red Badger; ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
Thanks Reily. Mark A probably has millions of living descendants, and not just due to Cleo. Probably Caesar also does, but Caesarion does not. He and his tutor were ready to board a ship to India and safety, but his tutor didn't much want to go (and/or got a lot of reward money), so he talked the kid out of it, convincing him that Octavian could be reasoned with. Whoops.

31 posted on 01/09/2023 4:21:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: circlecity
It was Marcus Agrippa did that. :^) In the months leading up to Actium, he worked the coastlines of the Adriatic, by land and sea, getting rid of Antony's forward bases and allies. He was one of the best strategists of the Roman era. I love how he was portrayed in HBO's "Rome".

32 posted on 01/09/2023 4:24:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
There was nothing to fix, so you didn’t fix anything, but thanks for the spam.

I got rid of the Christophobia, so now it's all fixed.

33 posted on 01/09/2023 4:25:39 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Quentin Quarantino

Definitely.


34 posted on 01/09/2023 4:33:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octavia_the_Younger#Descendants


35 posted on 01/09/2023 4:34:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Fiji Hill

There isn’t any Christophobia apart from fevered imaginations of trolls.


36 posted on 01/09/2023 4:35:03 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Bfl


37 posted on 01/09/2023 4:37:29 PM PST by katykelly
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To: Waverunner; z3n; nickcarraway
I really, really disliked the 2nd season, and overall I enjoyed the whole thing (reach exceeds grasp and all that), but it was only vaguely-based-upon, whole-cloth historical fiction.

For example, the real Atia wasn't the opportunistic libidinous trollop of the series, and died in 43 BC, hence wasn't around to see the paraded corpse of Marc Antony (another fiction, he and Cleo probably slid into the Med during a medieval quake) when he died in 30 BC.

The delightfully nasty Quintus Pompey character is a fiction (there were some men of that name, earlier on, and not a son of Pompey the Great).

Making the whole series a buddy movie was a great idea, and I love how they dealt with Octavian's contract out on Caesarion.

38 posted on 01/09/2023 4:38:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Savage Beast
The BBC "I, Claudius" makes reference to the battle in an early episode, with an invented conflict between Marcellus and Agrippa, 's cool.

39 posted on 01/09/2023 4:40:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

BCE is Christophobic.


40 posted on 01/09/2023 4:40:45 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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