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Ammunition shortages in Ukraine - production, supply, & are Russia or the West running dry?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deK98IeTjfY ^ | 12/30/2022 | Perun

Posted on 12/31/2022 9:05:44 AM PST by Chode

In Ukraine, perhaps no weapon has caused more losses, or decided more engagements than the artillery.

With contested airspace both side have turned to the big guns to support their operations - and both have consumed ammunition at a prodigious rate (albeit Russia many times faster than Ukraine).

In this episode - I look at the question of production and supply and ask the question - are Russia or Ukraine going to run out of shells in 2023


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: notourwar
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he's a logistics guy...
1 posted on 12/31/2022 9:05:44 AM PST by Chode
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To: Chode
Alexander Mercouris was saying the other day that Russia started the conflict with 17 million rounds of arty ammo.

They've used around 7 million?

And after that time, they've ramped up their factories - whereas the West is struggling to produce minimal stocks.

2 posted on 12/31/2022 9:08:59 AM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: Chode

If both sides run out, they can attack each other with clubs and sticks


3 posted on 12/31/2022 9:15:37 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Chode; All

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_Crisis_of_1915


4 posted on 12/31/2022 9:23:53 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: kiryandil

watch the whole thing... put it on 2x


5 posted on 12/31/2022 9:26:48 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Chode

Ask Putin for some ammo. The whole has been show biz anyway so both side could blackmail Joey and be paid off with our money.
That scumbag from Ukraine didn’t even bother to change his clothes to run over here to pick up his last check.
He knows Joey will be using his money to pay Mark Elias and his team to keep Dollar Hunter out out of jail and not rolling on The Big Guy.
As I said, it is all bull shiite and has been from day one. Does anybody really believe the Russians couldn’t win in two week?


6 posted on 12/31/2022 9:26:56 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Freedom is never free. It must be won rewon and jealously guarded.)
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To: PGR88

yup


7 posted on 12/31/2022 9:27:02 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: BenLurkin

yup, some of that is in the opening of the video


8 posted on 12/31/2022 9:28:12 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: kiryandil

This gets to why I also believe commonly quoted national GDP statistics are also BS. No one ever questions them.

Russia is often said to have an economy much smaller than even Australia’s.

But who is doing the measuring? How much is actually reported? In the West (particularly USA) we count our massive government spending and Wall Street trading as GDP. How productive are such activities really?

And is Russia (or China) really telling the world the true amount of defense-related investment and production?


9 posted on 12/31/2022 9:33:27 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Chode

No ammunition?

Can they then fight a war with empty guns and just mouthed noises, such as “bang!, you’re dead!”?


10 posted on 12/31/2022 9:34:52 AM PST by adorno
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To: Chode

Ammo for the Russians (or probably the Ukrainians) is not the limiting factor. Barrels wearing out is what will silence the big guns and before silencing them will limit their effectiveness. It is much easier to ramp ammo production than to replace or repair barrels. The west with exponentially more industrial capacity than Russia will easily win the war of production, if the war continues for long and I doubt it will. The Russian people well noted for their endurance in defensive wars are much less willing to sacrifice in aggressive ones.


11 posted on 12/31/2022 9:34:56 AM PST by your other brother
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To: your other brother

he covers all that along wi using tanks as indirect fire and THOSE barrels are harder to replace... it’s worth watching


12 posted on 12/31/2022 9:58:42 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Jet Jaguar

JJ, do you know if there are any logistics guys on your pinglist?

this is the best i’ve seen from a backend view

thx


13 posted on 12/31/2022 10:16:19 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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Thank God Putin is on his deathbed and the Russian troops are all surrendering. 🤡


14 posted on 12/31/2022 10:32:19 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████.)
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To: Chode

I still can’t believe people (especially on this forum) are still so very pro Ukraine and anti Russian. Russia has a legitimate gripe and Ukraine is the equivalent of a mob front business whose purpose is to launder money (US tax dollars) for western elites (Biden et all).


15 posted on 12/31/2022 11:53:12 AM PST by SACK UP
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To: Chode

Perhaps the EPA can send a few million bullets to Ukraine.


16 posted on 12/31/2022 11:53:27 AM PST by LimitedPowers (Citizenship is not a Hate Crime!)
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To: SACK UP

dint watch the video, did ya...


17 posted on 12/31/2022 12:24:55 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Chode

Chode, I do not know...

Sorry I could not help.


18 posted on 12/31/2022 2:03:31 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: markomalley; DYngbld; TADSLOS; xsrdx; big'ol_freeper; Mark17; mikefive; JDoutrider; ...

Ping.


19 posted on 12/31/2022 2:04:20 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

thank you... his short answer is no, neither side will “run out”

but his historical/current analysis of the supply chain is first rate


20 posted on 12/31/2022 2:16:08 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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