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‘She Doesn’t Understand Music’: Mariah Carey’s ‘All I Want for Christmas’ Co-Writer Slams The Star’s Musical Skills
Daily Caller ^ | December 26, 2022 7:26 PM ET | LEENA NASIR ENTERTAINMENT REPORTER

Posted on 12/27/2022 6:50:17 AM PST by Red Badger

Mariah Carey’s co-collaborator on “All I Want For Christmas,” Walter Afanasieff, fired off about the iconic star on the “Hot Takes & Deep Dives with Jess Rothschild” podcast, claiming she lacks musical skill.

Afanasieff alleges Carey took full credit for the internationally successful song and fought back by stating he co-created the song and was largely responsible for its success. He criticized Carey by alleging she wasn’t as talented as fans may have thought. “She doesn’t play anything, she doesn’t play keyboard or piano. She doesn’t understand music, she doesn’t know chord changes and music theory or anything like that,” Afanasieff said during the podcast.

Afanasieff told fans the star simply didn’t possess the skill to create the music that he says she claims she was solely responsible for.

Carey refuted the allegations and came back with evidence to prove her point.

She said she wrote the song and posted an old video of herself declaring that fact during a VH1 interview from 1994. The video was posted to her Instagram story, showing fans that she explained the behind-the-scenes writing process to them at that time.

“I was up at the farm, upstate where we did the video, and it was nighttime, and I was just walking around, and I got the idea for the song,” Carey said at the time.

“I don’t know where it came from, sometimes things just come to me like that,” she said in the video. “That melody just came into my head, the verse melody. And then, I was walking around, and I just went in and I had a little keyboard set up there and I just kind of finished the lyrics and the melody just came pretty quickly,” Carey said in the video.

“She doesn’t know a diminished chord from a minor seventh chord to a major seventh chord,” Afanasieff added.

“So to claim that she wrote a very complicated chord-structured song with her finger on a Casio keyboard when she was a little girl, it’s kind of a tall tale,” he said on the podcast.

Afanasieff insists he and Carey came up with the song together while working on three songs for her Christmas album, “Merry Christmas.” This is the one thing both parties seemed to agree on.

“Mariah has never claimed to write ‘All I Want for Christmas’ by herself or as a child. She has always credited Walter, as he is cited as a writer on the song, so that would be ridiculous,” a representative for Carey told The New York Post.

“Not sure where that rumor came from, but Mariah is very respectful of writers and the craft, as she is a songwriter herself,” Carey’s representatives told The New York Post.


TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Music/Entertainment; Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: mariahcarey; musicindustry
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To: Red Badger
She doesn’t play anything, she doesn’t play keyboard or piano.

Good grief. She doesn't present herself as a Julliard graduate. There are immortal singer and musicians who never learned those things. Although George Martin helped the Beatles, they intuited a lot of their musical touches without knowing the terminology. Mostly hard work and learning from what they grew up hearing without formal training.

Fats Domino didn't read music either, but he was a fine piano player.

And this bit that you aren't talented if you just sing and don't play instruments or compose is '60s gobbledy-gook. Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley, Enrico Caruso didn't play instruments or write much material, but their talent is unquestioned.

I don't even LIKE Mariah Caray, but that doesn't mean she doesn't have vocal chops. Ditto Barbra Streisand, whom I hate listening to.

Walter Afanasieff should go to the bank with his fat checks and keep his mouth shut. She is responsible for him being a very wealthy man.
41 posted on 12/27/2022 7:33:51 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? (Luke 18:8))
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To: Bratch
If you have to undress for attention, then there is something seriously missing for you in the ‘talent’ department! (Unless you are working on a street corner.) 😉
42 posted on 12/27/2022 7:35:12 AM PST by SMARTY (“Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.” Thomas Sowell)
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To: Red Badger

Afanasieff is a whiner. Sour grapes.


43 posted on 12/27/2022 7:35:13 AM PST by rexthecat
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To: Red Badger
“She doesn’t play anything, she doesn’t play keyboard or piano. She doesn’t understand music, she doesn’t know chord changes and music theory or anything like that,”

An acquaintance of mine is an extraordinary a capella harmony singer, by ear—he never received any formal musical training. Instead, he was raised in a generations-strong Bluegrass music tradition, and has sung in churches and regional theater for 60 years, including arranging harmony parts and directing small combos, to considerable acclaim.

Recently he got a group together to sing a simple, three-part harmony version of a classic piece of music that was originally scored for orchestra and chorus. At the last minute, one of the three singers had to drop out; and he hastily added a new tenor who also happened to be musically literate.

The new person totally took over and began lecturing the two a capella singers, the stage hands, microphone people and the director of the musical, because the other two "didn't know music." But during the performance, he sang flat and missed several of his entrances. I was sad for my very skilled friend to have been embarrassed by that egotist.

Mariah Carey has a great voice. I don't like that piece of Christmas music, but the gal can sing. Great vocal performance doesn't originate with those who score music or instrumentalize it.

44 posted on 12/27/2022 7:40:04 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: aynrandfreak
>>that sounds more like sour grapes than a fair charge.<<

Not a fan of hers but appreciate your prudence.
45 posted on 12/27/2022 7:40:06 AM PST by EliRoom8
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To: Red Badger

Mariah is crying all the way to the bank.


46 posted on 12/27/2022 7:40:37 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: HamiltonJay

I never said it didn’t take work.....my point is many people have a gift that doesn’t require formal training.....and I bet Mariah Carey falls into that category.


47 posted on 12/27/2022 7:41:44 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: V_TWIN

48 posted on 12/27/2022 7:42:01 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Bratch

EXACTLY. If she sang the same songs, with the same voice, and the same backup, but looked like a young Helen Thomas, would anyone be talking about how talented she is?


49 posted on 12/27/2022 7:42:28 AM PST by real saxophonist (Hoplophobia will never be in the DSM, because the DSM is written by hoplophobes.)
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To: Bratch

About 30 years and 50 pounds ago.


50 posted on 12/27/2022 7:43:18 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Jane Long

“I wonder if Walter earns that much, as well.”

Probably less, because he just has the writing credit, where she gets royalties from the recordings as well.


51 posted on 12/27/2022 7:43:32 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Red Badger

Why would this guy want anyone to know he wrote this overplayed song?


52 posted on 12/27/2022 7:43:48 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: Red Badger

This was ths the corected link for some actual singing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPpD0tUVBO0


53 posted on 12/27/2022 7:46:00 AM PST by SMARTY (“Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.” Thomas Sowell)
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To: Tired of Taxes

I hate music.


54 posted on 12/27/2022 7:46:39 AM PST by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Bratch

Exactly.


55 posted on 12/27/2022 7:48:00 AM PST by joethedrummer (We can't vote our way out of this, folks..)
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To: Jane Long
I read that she earns at least $3M, every Christmas, on royalties for that ONE song.

This 2022 article says she earns 400,00 British pounds ($482,000) per year on it. Still, nice piece of change.

56 posted on 12/27/2022 7:48:43 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: Jane Long

Walter’s extreme sour grapes are not very becoming, are they? What a grouch. In music, there have always been winners and losers. The stars make all the big money and the studio musicians, producers, sound engineers, and song writers are quietly laboring in the background, grinding things out day-to-day, and making a living.

I often groused about no-talent execs in the companies I worked at, but somehow they rose to the top and made the big bucks.

That’s the way of the world.


57 posted on 12/27/2022 7:56:17 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker)
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To: real saxophonist
Well, if you mean the dominant, that'd be G.

The dominant/V chord in C is Gmaj,or G,B, and D.

I may be missing something. But I'd never tell someone I aced harmony or theory.

58 posted on 12/27/2022 7:56:32 AM PST by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; Red Badger

Yep. Not a huge fan, but she can hit those notes. And she was a bit of a looker, for what that’s worth.

She can take his critique all the way to the bank.


59 posted on 12/27/2022 7:57:35 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: Red Badger

According to Wiki, Mariah received vocal training from her mother, who was a classically trained opera singer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariah_Carey


60 posted on 12/27/2022 7:59:16 AM PST by Cecily ( )
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