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‘She Doesn’t Understand Music’: Mariah Carey’s ‘All I Want for Christmas’ Co-Writer Slams The Star’s Musical Skills
Daily Caller ^ | December 26, 2022 7:26 PM ET | LEENA NASIR ENTERTAINMENT REPORTER

Posted on 12/27/2022 6:50:17 AM PST by Red Badger

Mariah Carey’s co-collaborator on “All I Want For Christmas,” Walter Afanasieff, fired off about the iconic star on the “Hot Takes & Deep Dives with Jess Rothschild” podcast, claiming she lacks musical skill.

Afanasieff alleges Carey took full credit for the internationally successful song and fought back by stating he co-created the song and was largely responsible for its success. He criticized Carey by alleging she wasn’t as talented as fans may have thought. “She doesn’t play anything, she doesn’t play keyboard or piano. She doesn’t understand music, she doesn’t know chord changes and music theory or anything like that,” Afanasieff said during the podcast.

Afanasieff told fans the star simply didn’t possess the skill to create the music that he says she claims she was solely responsible for.

Carey refuted the allegations and came back with evidence to prove her point.

She said she wrote the song and posted an old video of herself declaring that fact during a VH1 interview from 1994. The video was posted to her Instagram story, showing fans that she explained the behind-the-scenes writing process to them at that time.

“I was up at the farm, upstate where we did the video, and it was nighttime, and I was just walking around, and I got the idea for the song,” Carey said at the time.

“I don’t know where it came from, sometimes things just come to me like that,” she said in the video. “That melody just came into my head, the verse melody. And then, I was walking around, and I just went in and I had a little keyboard set up there and I just kind of finished the lyrics and the melody just came pretty quickly,” Carey said in the video.

“She doesn’t know a diminished chord from a minor seventh chord to a major seventh chord,” Afanasieff added.

“So to claim that she wrote a very complicated chord-structured song with her finger on a Casio keyboard when she was a little girl, it’s kind of a tall tale,” he said on the podcast.

Afanasieff insists he and Carey came up with the song together while working on three songs for her Christmas album, “Merry Christmas.” This is the one thing both parties seemed to agree on.

“Mariah has never claimed to write ‘All I Want for Christmas’ by herself or as a child. She has always credited Walter, as he is cited as a writer on the song, so that would be ridiculous,” a representative for Carey told The New York Post.

“Not sure where that rumor came from, but Mariah is very respectful of writers and the craft, as she is a songwriter herself,” Carey’s representatives told The New York Post.


TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Music/Entertainment; Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: mariahcarey; musicindustry
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To: x

Lots of very well-known singers simply muscle their way to co-writer credits, at least.


81 posted on 12/27/2022 9:10:39 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Lazamataz

I hate it more. Music kills people. It did me.


82 posted on 12/27/2022 9:11:47 AM PST by real saxophonist (Hoplophobia will never be in the DSM, because the DSM is written by hoplophobes.)
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To: Red Badger

‘All I Want for Christmas’ is a knockoff of “Vince Vance & The Valiants - All I Want For Christmas Is You”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8HWHd0EYJA


83 posted on 12/27/2022 9:23:27 AM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: minnesota_bound

Yes, I’ve met him/them....................


84 posted on 12/27/2022 9:27:48 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Do any “POP musicians” actually know anything about music?
The stuff I hear is complete crap, very little composition, melody, hookiness, authenticity.
All autotuned computerized samples.
Boring as hell soulless tripe.


85 posted on 12/27/2022 9:56:49 AM PST by TexasM1A
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To: HamiltonJay

Yep, bad form on his part to dish like that. Songwriting can be a sausage factory whose doors are better left shut.


86 posted on 12/27/2022 10:00:54 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: gloryblaze

LOL

My friend said my voice was off and that it is changing as I get older.

I laughed, stood up and belted out a couple lines of “Dead or Alive “, “You raise me up”, “Chances Are” and finished with “Hark How the Bells” singing highs and lows

She laughed her ass off


87 posted on 12/27/2022 10:12:43 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Larry Lucido
I’ve heard some say that Jimmy Page isn’t all that on guitar, but he’s better than me for sure.

Led Zeppelin needed a second guitarist like the Yardbirds had, but adding one would have changed the dynamics of the band.

88 posted on 12/27/2022 10:17:54 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Larry Lucido
Interestingly, I’ve read that Pete Townshend wasn’t impressed by Zeppelin, but then you read a lot of things.

Keith Moon almost joined Zeppelin, IIRC he worked with Page on "Beck's Bolero".

89 posted on 12/27/2022 10:19:25 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Red Badger

I keep hearing how bad this song is, so I just watched the YouTube video. It didn’t sound that bad to me. But I could understand a lot of guys watching it on mute.


90 posted on 12/27/2022 10:20:50 AM PST by gitmo
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To: Red Badger

You mean to tell me Mariah Carey isn’t smart? Who knew?


91 posted on 12/27/2022 10:29:24 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: real saxophonist
pop music

I V

I V

I IV V

repeat

Pentatonic scale solo

Repeat

Collect check

92 posted on 12/27/2022 10:30:56 AM PST by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: Lazamataz

But music loves you.


93 posted on 12/27/2022 10:31:29 AM PST by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: dfwgator

Yeah, forgot about that


94 posted on 12/27/2022 10:39:19 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: Red Badger

After he was out of office, Bill Clinton was dedicating some music grant to a school in Newark, NJ, if I remember correctly. He gave a pretty good speech, punctuated with the phrase, It might as well be you.

The second half of the program featured Mariah Carey. I happened to be in the lobby when she arrived with her handlers. It seemed to me she had an aura about her. I had to go back to work, so I didn’t hear her perform.

All I Want For Christmas is a great song for East Coast Swing.


95 posted on 12/27/2022 12:23:56 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: Red Badger

A =lot= of modern ‘artists’ have no knowledge of music whatsoever. You can tell when you look at album credits, and it looks like it was written by a committee. A surprising number of the old guard actually know a heck of a lot more about music composition than you’d ever imagine. Granted, many were playing by ear, but there are actually more knowledgeable rockers than you’d think.


96 posted on 12/27/2022 2:01:05 PM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: real saxophonist
EXACTLY. If she sang the same songs, with the same voice, and the same backup, but looked like a young Helen Thomas, would anyone be talking about how talented she is?

I doubt it. Good singers are a dime a dozen. Great ones, not so much. I don't know that I'd put her in that league. These days, with autotune, they can make anyone sound good. Video killed the radio star for a reason.

97 posted on 12/27/2022 2:15:20 PM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Vendome

#87 Here is Carl Reiner singing just off the cuff.
He is better then well 99% of what passes for singing these days in the pop world.

Carl Reiner on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson - 01/04/1983
https://youtu.be/C9ckqPxZjfg?t=212


98 posted on 12/27/2022 2:44:51 PM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: minnesota_bound

Funny

Let’s try Maria Callas
Casta Diva - Bellini
https://youtu.be/s-TwMfgaDC8


99 posted on 12/27/2022 3:56:31 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Lewis9

That

was

HIDEOUS!!!

Two cats fighting sound better.


100 posted on 12/27/2022 4:40:47 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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