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The heartbreak in Uvalde never seems to end
Hot Air ^ | December 20, 2022 | BEEGE WELBORN

Posted on 12/20/2022 12:27:07 PM PST by Fido969

The hits on this horror show just keep coming. A joint report out this morning from the WaPo, Texas Tribune, and ProPublica will cause the bile and tears to well up all over again.

Oh, my God, is it hard to read.

Not just a retelling of some of the more gut-wrenching moments of the siege and botched operation, but a detailed analysis of the emergency medical response to the school shooting. Nineteen kiddos and two teachers died, and the emergency services story is another complete and total disaster.

(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: 77minutes; hotgas; massshooting; uvalde
I don't know what is happening to EMS systems nowadays. Maybe it's because DHS and FEMA are more concerned about "domestic terrorism" (ie Republicans) that they have no way of dealing with actual emergencies.

Recently we had an emergency here, thousands without power in the dead of winter, and it was a day or two before even warming shelters could be set up. FEMA rules for emergency shelter require certain equipment and facilities in place, and there are resource and chain of command concerns.

Meanwhile citizens were saying: "Give me the keys to the High School, lets get people in where it's warm so they don't freeze to death in their houses and apartments!"

But noooo... Can't do that. Not allowed. Wouldn't be prudent.

1 posted on 12/20/2022 12:27:07 PM PST by Fido969
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To: Fido969
One significant factor: The first two ambulances arrived on the scene, but the subsequent influx of law enforcement blocked the streets, as did the vehicles of panicked parents rushing to the school.
2 posted on 12/20/2022 12:37:05 PM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." — M. O'Neal, USMC)
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Can we include all the stupid police officers in on the murder charges the perp would have gotten?

After all, they aided and abetted the perp with every shot he made.

3 posted on 12/20/2022 12:37:21 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Fido969

It’s time to sue somebody for billions whose only crime was discussing it.


4 posted on 12/20/2022 12:55:00 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

There were five medical helos on the scene, but the report shows not one of them transported any child from either affected classroom off the school grounds. Supposedly due to restrictions on landing in a zone with an active shooter, but police were calling for medical evac helos within ten minutes of killing the shooter. And still not one landed in the schoolyard.


5 posted on 12/20/2022 12:58:36 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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“And still not one landed in the schoolyard.”

And are you familiar with helicopter procedures and safe landing areas? This ain’t Hollywood. A Helo doesn’t fly in and just land anywhere. Especially around infrastructure. There are designated landing zones.


6 posted on 12/20/2022 1:33:40 PM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: Clutch Martin

Medivacs don’t need pre-set designated landing zones. They just need a area nearby clear enough to land.


7 posted on 12/20/2022 1:37:42 PM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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Best thing that can happen for the people of Uvalde at this point is for the a—hole media for stop hyperventilating and stirring things up instead of letting the people grieve their losses among family and friends, in private.


8 posted on 12/20/2022 2:02:12 PM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative )
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To: Clutch Martin

I can look at a map and see empty fields next to the school.
I’ve seen medevacs land in the middle of a 2-lane highway.


9 posted on 12/20/2022 2:07:38 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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The primary lesson is that we cannot depend on those who claim we should depend on them.


10 posted on 12/21/2022 1:40:33 AM PST by pacific_waters
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“And are you familiar with helicopter procedures and safe landing areas?” Which was why so many died. Your precious procedures killed people.


11 posted on 12/21/2022 1:42:22 AM PST by pacific_waters
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“And are you familiar with helicopter procedures and safe landing areas?” Which was why so many died. Your precious procedures killed people”

Despite your dire warning... helicopters aren’t dropping out of the skies, painting a picture as if they are is false. If there’s a whiff of a wire hanging on a pole or a monopole light fixture or FOD, caution is exercised. Loose fencing, gravel, milk crates, pallets, loose gear... I’ve seen it all.

Oh, and despite Hollywood, nobody jumps out of a helicopter into a debris field.


12 posted on 12/21/2022 2:00:14 AM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: smokingfrog

Basically, ideally they like to have a 100’x100’ clear and fairly level field with no wires or obstructions. I’m sure the school field would have been fine.


13 posted on 12/21/2022 9:15:22 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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