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What is an incel? Meaning explained
The US Sun ^ | Aug 13 2021 | Israel Salina-Rodriguez

Posted on 12/18/2022 4:33:06 PM PST by DallasBiff

Incel believers are members of an online subculture who define themselves as unable to find a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: boyswillbeincels; incel; mgtow; momsbasement; momsmacandcheese; qanon; redpill
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To: DallasBiff

Dweebs who wouldn’t know where to take a date for dinner


81 posted on 12/18/2022 11:17:55 PM PST by Nifster (OI see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: steve86

No, certainly not.

Consider the example of Sarah and Abraham set forth in the eighteenth chapter of the Book of Genesis in the Old Testament.

Sarah was 90 when she fell pregnant with and bore Isaac.

Also consider the example of Elizabeth, an older cousin of the Blessed Virgin Mary, and her husband Zachary.

Elizabeth, old and barren, nevertheless conceived and bore a son named John, cousin of Jesus.

Her son would later be known as John the Baptist.

The following is taken from the first chapter of the Gospel of Luke in the New Testament of the Holy Bible:

5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judea, a certain priest named Zachary, of the course of Abia; and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name Elizabeth.

6 And they were both just before God, walking in all the commandments and justifications of the Lord without blame.

7 And they had no son, for that Elizabeth was barren, and they both were well advanced in years.

8 And it came to pass, when he executed the priestly function in the order of his course before God,

9 According to the custom of the priestly office, it was his lot to offer incense, going into the temple of the Lord.

10 And all the multitude of the people was praying without, at the hour of incense.

11 And there appeared to him an angel of the Lord, standing on the right side of the alter of incense.

12 And Zachary seeing him, was troubled, and fear fell upon him.

13 But the angel said to him: Fear not, Zachary, for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elizabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John:

14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness, and many shall rejoice in his nativity.

15 For he shall be great before the Lord; and shall drink no wine nor strong drink: and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother’s womb.

16 And he shall convert many of the children of Israel to the Lord their God.

17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias; that he may turn the hearts of the fathers unto the children, and the incredulous to the wisdom of the just, to prepare unto the Lord a perfect people.

18 And Zachary said to the angel: Whereby shall I know this? for I am an old man, and my wife is advanced in years.

19 And the angel answering, said to him: I am Gabriel, who stand before God: and am sent to speak to thee, and to bring thee these good tidings.

20 And behold, thou shalt be dumb, and shalt not be able to speak until the day wherein these things shall come to pass, because thou hast not believed my words, which shall be fulfilled in their time.

21 And the people were waiting for Zachary; and they wondered that he tarried so long in the temple.

22 And when he came out, he could not speak to them: and they understood that he had seen a vision in the temple. And he made signs to them, and remained dumb.

23 And it came to pass, after the days of his office were accomplished, he departed to his own house.

24 And after those days, Elizabeth his wife conceived, and hid herself five months, saying:

25 Thus hath the Lord dealt with me in the days wherein he hath had regard to take away my reproach among men.

Finally, the following quote is from biblestudy.org:

“The summary of the benefits and curses of the Law as given to Moses by God shows that if the nation were to be obedient there would not be any childless couples, or even animals, among the people. It also shows that God himself is capable of either shutting up the wombs of women or opening it as he wishes (Exodus 23:26, Deuteronomy 7:14).”


82 posted on 12/19/2022 12:23:06 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey
Celibate literally means—single. Unmarried.

But "incel" means involuntarily celibate.

Whole different ball game!

Regards,

83 posted on 12/19/2022 1:03:57 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: nickcarraway
Do incels really exist? It seems to me if you wanted to not be celibate, calling yourself an incel and announcing it to the world would be one of the worst ways to end your celibacy?

No, of course, you're right to be skeptical! Literally no man is involuntarily celibate.

They are either voluntarily celibate, or are practically drowning in p*ssy.

There are no lonely, 20-something (or older!) guys out there who have finally come, after countless rejections, to the realization that - often due to factors over which they have no control - are at the rock-bottom of the dating market.

Regards,

84 posted on 12/19/2022 1:07:02 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

I would like to see a study of these “incels” regarding how many come from a back round of being raised by a single mother. And what the mother’s attitude is toward men in general.


85 posted on 12/19/2022 1:32:13 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("You'll shoot your eye out kid.")
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To: BlackAdderess
He announced that he was qualified to run the place (personally I thought he was mostly qualified to be relentlessly pranked by one of our more incorrigible young guys).

Without some context, it's very difficult to understand what you mean.

What is "the place" you are talking about here? The General Motors boardroom? The prison exercise yard? The kitchen at a McDonalds?

Regards,

86 posted on 12/19/2022 2:17:58 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Jonty30
Men have the income and status and women come to realize that the best men were just using them and they should seek somebody more down to earth.

And there's nothing that those guys - who worked hard through their 20s, while being dismissed / ignored / ridiculed by the same-age "party girls," but who have now gained social and financial status - want to do more than now "rescue" those aging, ploughed-through "party girls" and their offspring!

Ri-ight!

Regards,

87 posted on 12/19/2022 2:24:33 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: cgbg
In the old days many young men understood this—often learned it by osmosis in the military and could apply it in social settings.

Yep! All my best "game" I learned in Boot Camp!

And the all-male environment of the military is the best venue to learn "dating rules."

Regards,

88 posted on 12/19/2022 2:30:19 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: one guy in new jersey; steve86
You are literally saying that we should count on a miracle!

Regards,

89 posted on 12/19/2022 2:33:59 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

Involuntarily celibate? The term is I’ll-conceived. They are not choosing to characterize themselves by reference to their marital status (single), but rather by reference to the fact that they are not engaging in the marital act. Single men who engage in the marital act with women are referred to as fornicators, with other sexual acts with women being referred to as sodomy, or without women being referred to as self-abuse. Chances are, all or nearly all so-called “InCels” are actively engaging in self-abuse. The first word of advice would then certainly be, absolutely, definitely, “voluntarily”, cease abusing yourself.


90 posted on 12/19/2022 3:23:59 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: alexander_busek

...ill-conceived...


91 posted on 12/19/2022 3:27:28 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: DallasBiff

Pro 18:22 - He who finds a wife finds a good thing,
And obtains favor from the LORD.

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1Co 7:27 - Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be loosed. Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife.

1Co 7:33 - But he who is married cares about the things of the world—how he may please his wife.

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1Co 7:8 - But I say to the unmarried and to widows that it is good for them if they remain even as I.

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So don’t bash all incels,,, it might be a blessing to them instead of a curse

/-)

Celabacy has its benefits.

I think once was a term invented to bash Christians who choose to serve the Lord and forgo marriage or sex outside of marriage.

Ymmv


92 posted on 12/19/2022 4:32:54 AM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: cuz1961

Celabacy has its benefits.

I think

INCEL

( funny how a.i changed that to once 3 times. Ok not funny)

was a term invented to bash Christians who choose to serve the Lord and forgo marriage or sex outside of marriage.

Ymmv


93 posted on 12/19/2022 4:35:21 AM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: DallasBiff

If she says “No” and he doesn’t cheat, isn’t that an Incel situation also?


94 posted on 12/19/2022 5:11:35 AM PST by DNME (… all experience hath shewn ….)
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To: Jonty30
Woman today would rather be a part-time concubine of a guy who is 6’2” and has a great job

So? If I demonstrate the discipline to go to the gym every day and having worked hard in school and afterwards to grow businesses and wealth, mastery of a musical instrument, enough athletic ability to engage in somewhat risky behavior but beat Mother Nature, of course women are going to be attracted. And you don't need to be 6'2" or particularly handsome either.

Women want a stable, successful protector, but also a thrill ride. Also, make the laugh. Why, when I drop my pants....

95 posted on 12/19/2022 5:27:03 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Jamestown1630

If nothing else, it puts a smile on a woman, making her look more beautiful. Plus, it shows a connection between the two.

There are several cases where I said something to my wife that was completely unexpected and humorous that she still remembers fondly.


96 posted on 12/19/2022 5:37:27 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: Sirius Lee

The “height” issue is actually a case of women confusing the map with the territory.

What do I mean?

The “map” is the height. It is a proxy or symbol for other character traits that women find desirable in men. The most important trait it symbolizes is leadership of the group.

Obviously in the real world leaders come in all shapes and sizes and there are millions of different “leaders” of all sorts of activities.

The self-confident young man gets the tall guy in the group laughing at his jokes and the tall guy is deferring to him in a room full of people.

Women quickly pick up on the vibe, lose the “tall” proxy, and go for the real thing.


97 posted on 12/19/2022 5:40:30 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Jonty30

Part of it is that we have a culture that is openly welcoming to single accomplished women. Such women aren’t in need to settle for a guy that fails to meet their expectations or doesn’t make their desires take over.

The key for men is to see themselves as what they can be instead of what they fear they are.

If those two conditions are just modestly begun upon the initial social contacts they can be self supporting.


98 posted on 12/19/2022 5:41:04 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: one guy in new jersey
Involuntarily celibate? The term is [ill]-conceived.

Who says?

The term perfectly expresses what they want to express (though not what you want to express, apparently).

Single men who engage in the marital act with women are referred to by one guy in new jersey as fornicators [...]

Again: You are free to refer to them however you wish. But they are also free to refer to themselves however they wish.

The terms which you wish to apply ("fornicators," "sodomists," etc.) may be relevant and useful for the kinds of conversations you want to conduct - but are not pertinent to the discussion they want to conduct.

Regards,

99 posted on 12/19/2022 6:08:48 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Jonty30
They are males that never learned how to be men.
Reminds me of the "Gunsmoke" episode "With a Smile".

James Best did a very good job portraying the spoiled rich kid Dal.

Also, a good surprise ending to the episode.

100 posted on 12/19/2022 6:11:58 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Gun laws empower criminals. Guns empower the people.)
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