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Weekly Garden Thread - December 17-23, 2022 [Winter Weather Folklore Edition]
December 17, 2022 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 12/17/2022 7:29:17 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: folklore; food; gardening; hobbies
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
Ern. A good idea! Tiller radishes or turnips I heard of using Cowhorn turnip to do this. Break up the hardpan, die, rot, leave a hole behind. I guess I am a bit behind the times though.

https://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1354684/

"Early 20th century lots of folks used the Cowhorn turnip to break plowpan. Of course they did not know about Daikon radishes which work a lot better. The old Cowhorn is probably a part of history, but Baker Creek sells something similar as Navet des Vertus Marteau turnip. Evergreen seeds has good selection of Daikon types".

41 posted on 12/17/2022 5:54:54 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Qiviut
Glad your father is doing well and Sorry about your Christmas mice!

(Mice in the house means cold winter I guess!)

Winter night picture from Canada! The first snow is always magical, but always more magical if you do not have to go out in it!


42 posted on 12/17/2022 6:07:57 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( Robert Nickson Whistler village, Whistler, Canada)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

So pretty!

I have to do the shoveling around here, so if it’s a snow that disappears fairly quickly, that works for me!


43 posted on 12/17/2022 6:16:58 PM PST by Qiviut (I'm not out of control, I'm just not in their control. $hot $hills: Sod Off)
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To: Chunga85

I’ve been gardening since I was a kid, and I have never worried about PH levels.

Dirt is just what’s giving your plants a place to live and grow. As long as you have a good mix of everyday dirt, peat and compost, you can’t go wrong.

For my money, fertilizing the plants based upon what they need is a much simpler and easier way to boost production and protect against disease.

This upcoming spring is the year my beds are all getting a top dressing of manure/compost and a light tilling. Then they’re covered with piles of straw on top for weed suppression.

It’s easy to look up what plants need, nutritionally, but we’d be glad to help you when the time comes. :)


44 posted on 12/18/2022 8:10:18 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Thanks, Pete!


45 posted on 12/18/2022 8:11:05 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: All
Cat Weather Forecast:


46 posted on 12/18/2022 8:18:10 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Thanks Diana. The farmer next door to us spent 30K on lime so there has to be something to this I don’t understand. Over the years we’ve bought a few probe style meters and the needle never moves, even sticking it in a bag of lime. Our garden always grows best with *a lot* of manure.

Our son and I just plopped (literally) a ton of cow patties on the beds. I’m glad he’s getting into this because it is a lot of work. We can’t wait.


47 posted on 12/18/2022 8:25:57 AM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: All

Animal Behavior as a Predictor of Weather

Animal behaviors have been observed for a very long time. We watch animals for signs of a change of seasons such as geese flying south for the winter, the first robins appearing in spring, or animals like badgers, hedgehogs, and bears emerging from their hibernation dens.

Animals and birds react to weather in many different ways and their reactions can predict significant changes in the weather. Science is yet to determine exactly how animals know what’s to come. Is it a rise or fall in atmospheric pressure, a reaction to electromagnetic forces, or even changes in the levels of humidity? Or perhaps some undetermined combination of all three of these?

A longtime study done by Ken Armitage, a professor at the University of Kansas, states that rodents are now emerging about a month earlier in the spring than they did 30 or 40 years ago. Ken says, “understanding how individual groundhogs respond to environmental change is essential if we want to predict how animals will react to global warming and other human-driven habitat shifts.”

According to oral tradition, potential signs of bad weather include:

Expect rain when dogs eat grass, cats purr and wash, sheep turn into the wind, oxen sniff the air, and swine are restless.

Horses or cows lying down is a sign of rain.

Bats flying late in the evening indicates fair weather.

When pigs gather extra leaves and straw, expect a cold winter.

If sheep climb up hills and scatter, expect clear weather.

https://www.sciencenaturally.com/post/can-animals-predict-the-weather

48 posted on 12/18/2022 8:26:17 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: LibWhacker

49 posted on 12/18/2022 9:03:56 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Bon of Babble

Where do you host your images? I have some photos from the last couple of years of my fairy gardens. Every year I change them around a little bit.


50 posted on 12/18/2022 1:55:10 PM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: FamiliarFace

The only place I host my images is to Freep and my family.

Maybe you could post a couple of photos of your fairy gardens right here?

I’d love to see them!


51 posted on 12/19/2022 6:14:22 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: Bon of Babble

I thought they had to be hosted somewhere to be able to post them. I only have them on my iPad photo app. Not sure how to convert them to photos for FR.


52 posted on 12/19/2022 6:23:00 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: FamiliarFace

It’s very very easy to post photos here.

I use this website:

https://postimages.org/web

Go to the “upload” tab at the top and then swipe whatever photos you want from your photo library into the “choose images” box. When the photo uploads hit the “Hotlink for Website” tab, it copies automatically and you can paste and then post that on Freep and it will post your image.


53 posted on 12/19/2022 6:39:19 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: Bon of Babble
Trial run. This is my first fairy garden. 52-F10832-8-EE3-4-BC1-AB4-D-BB7-D5559-BD5-F

54 posted on 12/19/2022 7:38:02 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: Bon of Babble

Now that I have signed up, it looks like it’s not free, as it indicated during sign up. Says it will send me a monthly bill of $30 or 40 dollars once the trial ends. So I will only post these for a little bit.


55 posted on 12/19/2022 7:39:45 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: Bon of Babble
Here’s that same fairy garden, several years later.

7018-FF5-A-AA40-4-C03-90-A2-718-D4-B80650-B

56 posted on 12/19/2022 7:44:26 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: FamiliarFace

It says the free trial will end in 5 days. I can’t afford $40/ month for the membership, so will have to keep looking around for one that is free. Note to self: these uploads don’t look nearly as clear as the originals do.


57 posted on 12/19/2022 7:47:13 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: FamiliarFace

I have posted from Post Images for years and years - for free. I wasn’t aware there was even a subscription service.


58 posted on 12/19/2022 7:47:41 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: FamiliarFace

Beautiful!!

I need to add moss and pebbles to mine to complete.

My next purchase is the pond - and swans.

Thanks for posting!


59 posted on 12/19/2022 7:48:48 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: Bon of Babble

Mine said it was hosted by Tulum, and that’s where the subscription comes in. It wouldn’t let me upload without making an account, and it said it needed my credit card number but wouldn’t charge it. So enjoy these shots while you can, they will probably disappear once I cancel the “membership”.


60 posted on 12/19/2022 8:27:21 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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