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The Post & Email ^ | 15 Jul 2022 | Joseph DeMaio

Posted on 12/16/2022 4:02:55 PM PST by CDR Kerchner

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Another excellent piece of writing by Mr. Joseph DeMaio designed to make one critically think about a key, but falsified, political narrative of the progressive agenda to undermine and abrogate parts of the U.S. Constitution, that has been foisted on the American public by the progressive far left over the last 20-30 years. And, as a result of that, with the defacto putting of a constitutionally ineligible anti-American "Dreams From My Father" Barack Hussein Obama II into the Oval Office, has put the USA onto an ever accelerating path of destruction of our Constitutional Republic. And said Obama is still doing his evil works behind the scene pulling the strings as a master "Saul Alinsky style" community organizer serving a defacto 3rd term in the Oval Office via his front man, Joe Biden.
1 posted on 12/16/2022 4:02:55 PM PST by CDR Kerchner
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To: CDR Kerchner

(has put the USA onto an ever accelerating path of destruction of our Constitutional Republic)

And the fruit 🍓🍑 of such labors is now quite apparent.

But far too few listened...


2 posted on 12/16/2022 4:07:33 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: CDR Kerchner

The Immigration Act of 1790 directly defines Natural Born citizen as being born of citizen parents, with citizenship devolving from the father.


3 posted on 12/16/2022 4:12:20 PM PST by odawg
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“The Immigration Act of 1790 directly defines Natural Born citizen as being born of citizen parents, with citizenship devolving from the father.

So a NBC has to be born beyond the sea?


And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States .



4 posted on 12/16/2022 4:27:41 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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“So a NBC has to be born beyond the sea?”

Where do you get the “has to be born” beyond the sea?

A baby born of parents in the military stationed overseas are know as natural born citizens.


5 posted on 12/16/2022 4:32:05 PM PST by odawg
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To: odawg

“Where do you get the “has to be born” beyond the sea?”

I gave you a direct quote from the Act.


6 posted on 12/16/2022 4:36:51 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: CDR Kerchner

“What if I told you...”

Sounds like a damn push poll....


7 posted on 12/16/2022 4:43:50 PM PST by ASOC (This space for rent)
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To: odawg

The Congress’ first naturalization law, 1790 Act Naturalization Act, was found to be in error by key founders and framers such as Madison and thus on their instigation was totally repealed and replaced by the 1795 Naturalization Act which corrected the errors. No naturalization law since the 1790 erroneous one has ever mentioned the term “natural born Citizen” as Congress has no power under the U.S. Constitution or the laws of nature and Natural Law to create a “natural born Citizen”.


8 posted on 12/16/2022 4:47:06 PM PST by CDR Kerchner (natural born Citizen, natural law, Emer de Vattel, naturels, presidential, eligibility, kamalaharris)
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To: TexasGator

You evidently cannot read.


9 posted on 12/16/2022 4:47:11 PM PST by odawg
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To: SaveFerris

“But far too few listened...”

They...were...too...comfortable.


10 posted on 12/16/2022 4:47:59 PM PST by dljordan
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To: TexasGator

The Congress’ first naturalization law, 1790 Act Naturalization Act, was found to be in error by key founders and framers such as Madison and thus on their instigation was totally repealed and replaced by the 1795 Naturalization Act which corrected the errors. The words “natural born” were deleted in the 1795 Act. No naturalization law since the 1790 erroneous one has ever mentioned the term “natural born Citizen” as Congress has no power under the U.S. Constitution or the laws of nature and Natural Law to create a “natural born Citizen”.


11 posted on 12/16/2022 4:50:14 PM PST by CDR Kerchner (natural born Citizen, natural law, Emer de Vattel, naturels, presidential, eligibility, kamalaharris)
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To: odawg

“You evidently cannot read.”

I posted the text. It is very clear. That is the only definition of NBC in the Act.

You make statements but you have not backed up those statements.


12 posted on 12/16/2022 4:51:01 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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“...as Congress has no power under the U.S. Constitution or the laws of nature and Natural Law to create a “natural born Citizen”.””

I have no clue as to what that means.

My point is that the term natural born is defined in the act. The framers put it in the Constitution as one of three requirements to be president of the United States, so it has pivotal meaning.


13 posted on 12/16/2022 4:51:29 PM PST by odawg
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“So a NBC has to be born beyond the sea?”

That is the statement I responded to.

Since being a natural born citizen was one of the three requirements to be president placed into the Constitution, do you really think that the framers of the Constitution intended that only people born beyond the sea would be president? That is utterly ridiculous.

No, you can’t read.


14 posted on 12/16/2022 4:54:59 PM PST by odawg
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To: odawg

“Since being a natural born citizen was one of the three requirements to be president placed into the Constitution, do you really think that the framers of the Constitution intended that only people born beyond the sea would be president? That is utterly ridiculous.”

You referenced that definition, not me. Stop the theatrics


15 posted on 12/16/2022 4:57:48 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: odawg

“My point is that the term natural born is defined in the act. “

I quote it for you again:

——————born beyond Sea,————

And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States .



16 posted on 12/16/2022 5:03:38 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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G W MORON drove the country into the ground. Obama aka barry soetero fundamentally transformed this country. Everything changed with his usurpation.


17 posted on 12/16/2022 5:10:57 PM PST by imabadboy99
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To: odawg

“The Immigration Act of 1790 directly defines Natural Born citizen as being born of citizen parents, with citizenship devolving from the father.’

No, Both parents have to be citizens AND the father must have RESIDED in the US.


18 posted on 12/16/2022 5:12:28 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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I would love to say that Obama was pulling the strings today.

When Obama was in office he did NOTHING. When he tried anything, he failed. I don’t think he would be more successful today?


19 posted on 12/16/2022 5:24:11 PM PST by Celerity
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"A baby born of parents in the military stationed overseas are know as natural born citizens."

No they are not.

20 posted on 12/16/2022 5:31:17 PM PST by jpsb
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