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To: CDR Kerchner

“...as Congress has no power under the U.S. Constitution or the laws of nature and Natural Law to create a “natural born Citizen”.””

I have no clue as to what that means.

My point is that the term natural born is defined in the act. The framers put it in the Constitution as one of three requirements to be president of the United States, so it has pivotal meaning.


13 posted on 12/16/2022 4:51:29 PM PST by odawg
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To: odawg

“My point is that the term natural born is defined in the act. “

I quote it for you again:

——————born beyond Sea,————

And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States .



16 posted on 12/16/2022 5:03:38 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: odawg

But in your use of the 1790 Naturalization Act you to choose to ignore that it was in error and totally repealed and replaced by the 1795 Naturalization Act. Both acts addressed naturalization and who were considered to be Citizens under various circumstances. Congress got the power under the Constitution of “naturalization” of new Citizens for the United States. Congress has the power to create man-made Positive Laws and Acts. It does not have the power to create Natural Laws or the laws of nature. If you don’t know the difference between Natural Law and Positive Law, google on it. And things or acts with the word “natural” in it are referring to Natural Law. The 1790 Naturalization Act stated that certain persons under certain circumstances were to be “considered” to be “natural born Citizens”. It did not say they actually were, as they could not. But even use of the word “considered” was a power that Congress did not have. So Congress overstepped its constitutionally granted powers and at the work of Madison and others the error was pointed out and the 1790 Naturalization Act was repealed and totally replaced by the 1795 Naturalization Act where the words “natural born” were removed. And the words “natural born” have not appeared in any naturalization act since ... because Congress cannot create a “natural born” anything, citizen or otherwise.


40 posted on 12/16/2022 7:21:52 PM PST by CDR Kerchner (natural born Citizen, natural law, Emer de Vattel, naturels, presidential, eligibility, kamalaharris)
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