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Putin disappointed by Merkel's words about Minsk agreements
yahoooooo ^ | Fri, December 9, 2022 at 6:08 AM | Ukrayinska Pravda

Posted on 12/10/2022 8:13:17 AM PST by BenLurkin

Vladimir Putin, the President of Russia, has been disappointed by the statement of German ex-Chancellor Angela Merkel, where she claimed that the Minsk agreements of 2014 enabled Ukraine to prepare for war with Russia.

For me, it was completely unexpected. It is disappointing. I did not expect to hear something like that from the ex-Chancellor. I always hoped that the German leadership was genuine.

Yes, she was on Ukraine’s side, supporting it. But nevertheless, I genuinely hoped that German leadership expected a settlement based on the principles achieved, among other things, during the Minsk negotiations."

"It appears to me that nobody planned to live up to these Minsk agreements… They [the participants – ed.] lied to us, and the only reason for these processes was to pump Ukraine up with weapons and get it ready for military action. Well, we can see that. Maybe we were too late to realise what was happening. Maybe this [the war – ed.] should have been started earlier."

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To: BenLurkin

‘Merkel’s confession could be a pretext for an International Tribunal’
https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/12/13/merkels-confession-could-be-a-pretext-for-an-international-tribunal/


41 posted on 12/13/2022 9:40:33 PM PST by cranked
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To: EEGator; BenLurkin; Navy Patriot; kiryandil; delta7; Magnum44; tlozo; Widget Jr

Don’t Let Russia Fool You About the Minsk Agreements
CEPA
Kurt Volker
December 16, 2021
https://cepa.org/dont-let-russia-fool-you-about-the-minsk-agreements/
[Excerpt:]

1. There are two Minsk Agreements, not just one. The first “Minsk Protocol” was signed on September 5, 2014. It mainly consists of a commitment to a ceasefire along the existing line of contact, which Russia never respected. By February 2015, fighting had intensified to a level that led to renewed calls for a ceasefire, and ultimately led to the second Minsk Agreement, signed on February 12, 2015. Even after this agreement, Russian-led forces kept fighting and took the town of Debaltseve six days later. The two agreements are cumulative, building on each other, rather than the second replacing the first. This is important in understanding the importance, reflected in the first agreement, of an immediate ceasefire and full monitoring by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), including on the Ukraine-Russia border, as fundamental to the subsequent package of agreements.

2. Russia is a Party to the Minsk Agreements. The original Minsk signatories are Russia, Ukraine, and the OSCE. Russia is a protagonist in the war in Ukraine and is fully obliged to follow the deal’s terms. Despite that, however, Russia untruthfully claims not to be a party and only a facilitator — and that the real agreements are between Ukraine and the so-called “separatists,” who call themselves the Luhansk and Donetsk Peoples’ Republics (LPR and DPR), but are in fact Russian supplied and directed.

3. The LPR and DPR are not recognized as legitimate entities under the Minsk Agreements. The signatures of the leaders of the so-called Luhansk and Donetsk Peoples’ Republics were added after they had already been signed by Ukraine, Russia, and the OSCE. They were not among the original signatories, and indeed Ukraine would not have signed had their signatures been part of the deal. There is nothing in the content or format of the Agreement that legitimizes these entities and they should not be treated as negotiating partners in any sense. Russia alone controls the forces occupying parts of eastern Ukraine.

4. Russia is in violation of the Minsk Agreements. The deals require a ceasefire, withdrawal of foreign military forces, disbanding of illegal armed groups, and returning control of the Ukrainian side of the international border with Russia to Ukraine, all of this under OSCE supervision. Russia has done none of this. It has regular military officers as well as intelligence operatives and unmarked “little green men” woven into the military forces in Eastern Ukraine. The LPR and DPR forces are by any definition “illegal armed groups,” that have not been disbanded. The ceasefire has barely been respected by the Russian side for more than a few days at a time.

5. Russian-led forces prevent the OSCE from accomplishing its mission in Donbas as spelled out in the Minsk Agreements. It is an unstated irony in Vienna — understood by every single diplomatic mission and member of the international staff — that Russia approves the mandate of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission (SMM) in Ukraine when it votes in Vienna, but then blocks implementation of that same mission on the ground in Ukraine. Because Russia is a member of the OSCE, and the SMM wants to preserve what little access it has to the occupied territories, the mission is guarded in what it says about ceasefire violations and restrictions on its freedom of movement. Privately, however, they acknowledge that some 80% of such violations and restrictions come from the Russian-controlled side of the border, and those that occur on the Ukrainian side are largely for safety reasons (e.g., avoiding mined approaches to bridges.)

6. Ukraine has implemented as much of Minsk as can reasonably be done while Russia still occupies its territory. The agreements require political measures on Ukraine’s side, including a special status for the region, an amnesty for those who committed crimes as part of the conflict, local elections, and some form of decentralization under the Ukrainian constitution. But the form of these measures is not specified, and Ukraine has already passed legislation addressing every point. It has passed – and extended with renewals – legislation on special status and amnesty, and already has legislation on the books governing local elections. It has passed constitutional amendments. The Minsk Agreements do not require Ukraine to grant autonomy to Donbas, or to become a federalized state. It is Russia’s unique interpretation that the measures passed by Ukraine are somehow insufficient, even though the agreements do not specify what details should be included, and Ukraine has already complied with what is actually specified to the degree it can.

What is lacking in Ukraine’s passage of these political measures is not the legislation per se, but implementation — which Russia itself prevents by continuing to occupy the territory. For example, international legal norms would never recognize the results of elections held under conditions of occupation, yet that is exactly what Russia seeks by demanding local elections before it relinquishes control. Moreover, the elections would not be for positions in the illegitimate LPR and DPR “governments” established under Russian occupation, but for the legitimate city councils, mayors, and oblast administrations that exist under Ukrainian law. Who would vote in such elections? Ukrainian law says all displaced citizens should vote. But would Russian occupation authorities allow this? These are matters for resolution under international supervision – not for Russia to dictate terms.


42 posted on 12/26/2022 3:17:59 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: Cronos
Kurt Volker of CIA, State Department representative of NATO, and the McCain Institute, published by the CEPA "non-partisan" "NGO" "analysis".

What better references could a {spook} American Journalist have to get me to believe the Russians.

43 posted on 12/26/2022 5:10:59 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

Then what is it that Volker wrote about what the Minsk Agreements actually are that is not true? The so-called separatists in Crimea, Donbas, and Luhansk were KGB/GRU like Igor Girkin and Russian mercenaries like Wagner.


44 posted on 12/26/2022 12:41:59 PM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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To: Widget Jr

Anything from Volker’s lips is intentional deception.


45 posted on 12/26/2022 1:10:55 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot
Which is a non-answer to what I asked.

Volker's testimony during the first impeachment backed Trump's side of the story there was no bribery or quid-pro-quo. Was that deception then, or is it deception now?

I have always found it strange that on the right, heroes and villains change to the headlines and cheap talking points.

46 posted on 12/26/2022 1:54:41 PM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - No to CCCP 2.0)
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To: Widget Jr
The so-called separatists in Crimea, Donbas, and Luhansk were KGB/GRU like Igor Girkin and Russian mercenaries like Wagner.

That's BS...DPR/LPR forces were and are Ukrainian. Some of the best fighters in the war too, as Ukie regulars attest.

47 posted on 12/26/2022 2:08:18 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: Widget Jr

I am not required to answer your questions, and intentional deception is critical in establishing the value of an individual and information.


48 posted on 12/26/2022 2:11:52 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

You can read the Minsk agreement yourself and see how Russia reneged on it


49 posted on 12/27/2022 5:44:42 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: Cronos

Sorry, don’t have time, currently reading the US Constitution, and how Biden, FBI, CIA, State, Deep Swamp, MSM, Uke Nazi Agents and Uke Nazi Propagandists reneged on it.


50 posted on 12/27/2022 5:55:18 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

Yet you comment on Ukraine boosts if you don’t have the time.


51 posted on 12/27/2022 6:56:34 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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