Posted on 12/07/2022 4:23:26 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski
Video: "Ukraine's future is being sold to finance a proxy war that's tearing it apart."
(Excerpt) Read more at twitter.com ...
A. Weaken Russia
B. Wrest control of one of the top food producing nations on earth?
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Jo Jo’s “war” isn’t working out for the Ukies?
It’s all part of the same scenario, directly related to the “Dutch” (sic) (WEF) govt closing 3,000 farms to build a mega-city for 3rd world immigrants, to Germany banning nitrogen fertilizer.
A global famine is coming, so buckle up.
The same people behind the Covid “pandemic” and mRNA death-jab, are behind wrecking global food production, wrecking global POL production, wrecking global transportation, etc.
It’s a de-population move.
WEF Adviser Yuval Harari: ‘We Just Don’t Need the Vast Majority of the Population’ in Today’s World
Yuval Noah Harari, historian, futurist, and World Economic Forum (WEF) adviser, said, “We just don’t need the vast majority of the population” in the early 21st century given modern technologies’ rendering human labor economically and militarily “redundant.”
[Much more at link. We are just unwanted ants at their picnic.]
Agreed!
I use the 2004 Indonesian tsunami as an analogy.
The wave was formed in the deep offshore ocean by an earthquake. The areas wrecked by tsunami waves were doomed from the moment of the earthquake. Even when the horizon looked clear and the ocean smooth, the tsunamis were on their way, and unstoppable.
That is the coming global famine. It can’t be averted at this point. It’s baked in the cake. It’s coming.
Actually-I don’t believe they have a future any more.
It certainly looks that way to me.
Our modern civilization lives on a bit of a knife edge. And humanity lives right on top of that San Andreas Fault or in the flood zone of a tsunami, and most people don't even give it a second thought.
When we were largely an agrarian civilization and people had control of food production war and bad weather could produce famines and accompanying starvation, but people could produce their own food, even if unevenly and ineptly in some, which could still produce famine and starvation.
Now, the production of food is far more concentrated, and feeding a larger number of non-food producing people than ever before.
These people (including myself and billions of others) are utterly dependent on a variety of factors to obtain nutrition, and two of those major factors are increased crop yields and food distribution systems.
And both of those things, yield and distribution are being deliberately destroyed.
Fertilizer is both dependent on petroleum for manufacture and shipping, and the supply of both has been interdicted by the Left. And I use the word "interdicted" very purposefully.
The point is, we take for granted the durability of the system to produce and supply the humanity of the world when in reality, there is very little real durability, and only the illusion of durability. The process of food production and transport is so critically dependent on a wide variety of factors that multiple failures may render the system completely inert. I have heard it said that "There are only nine meals between Mankind and Anarchy" and I believe it.
There was a time when believed that the Left was engaged in their usual practice of one-stage thinking, where they decide how a particular action will obtain a desired result and base the entire pyramid of their goal off of that shallow thinking.
They don't expend any time or effort at thinking critically about the issue because, being the "smartest people in the room", and when things go wrong, it is always "unexpected".
In this, I don't think they have followed that model of behavior. I now think the coming catastrophe is completely intentional.
We can survive a localized war or weather pattern, but we can't survive a global intentional interdiction of the underpinnings of food production and supply.
God help us.
Unfortunately when you try to educate them, they revert to their inner-child and resort to calling those who are against this conflict names such as comrade. Worse though is the fact that I never hear them speak of the invasion that is not only being allowed in our own country, but is being encouraged. They do not understand the ramifications. Yet they believe themselves to be true patriots and somehow saintly for their misplaced and misnamed, "compassionate conservatism".
I guess they are too afraid to see the reality, and that this nation & other nations do not want to stop the war. That should tell them something, but all they can muster up is Russia invaded Ukraine.
I couldn’t agree more. I keep warning people here that this will be coming to the U.S. this planting season.
Yes, it would be so much better for Ukraine to just lay down its arms and be conquered by the Russians! The attempts to justify Russian aggression against Ukraine are a marvel to behold.
This war was instigated by Putin - he started with his attacks in 2008 and his invasion started in 2014.
That describes your hero Putin going off to attack Ukraine.
He lost in March and is just dragging the killing on.
Ukraine left the Soviet Union with 50+ million people. Its had high and steady emigration ever since. Its also has had the lowest birth rates in Europe.
They haven’t conducted a formal census in 20+ years.
So people can only “guess” the population was about 35-40 million before the war began
7 million people have fled West. Russia controls another 7-10 million or so in the East.
Whoever remains in rump Ukraine are certainly not reproducing, and their young men are being killed at a fast rate.
Now engaged, neither the USA or Russia will end this grinding war without some sight of “victory.”
Ukraine is finished/gone/dead. It will ultimately be broken up between Russia, Poland, Hungary
Denazify Europe before it gets as bad as it did last time.
Thank you Russia.
Check out this guy at Sea Tac headed off to fight for Ukraine.
https://t.me/UkrainianPolicyMatters/5185
Some videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FreNSB8YDUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy910FG46C4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5TZnFZ4tg
Terrorists from all over the world went to Ukraine for training, including the Christchurch shooter.
Not that we cared because we supported and funded them for at least 8 years and voted no one in resolution against glorifying nazis, along with Ukraine. Just us two the first time but recently it ran again and this time we were joined by the EU.
Probably because the Baltics are loaded with nazis.
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2020/12/21/us-ukraine-vote-against-un-resolution-against-nazism/
The Ukrainians’ calculation of their chances of success are obviously different than your own. So far they have been doing much better than anyone, especially the Russians had expected. Despite its size, Russian victory is not guaranteed. History is full of examples of smaller nations winning against much larger adversaries.
Again, though, I must ask why this constant criticism of the Ukrainians defending themselves and none against the Russians attacking in the first place?
Russia doesn’t want western Ukraine. Poland does.
The Hungarian strip should go back to Hungary.
ever wonder why Hungary doesn’t support Ukraine? Because they have seen first hand how citizens of other ethnicities are bullied.
If you believe the same western media that lied daily about Trump, if you believe Biden and his state run media, yes- Ukraine is doing great. With on the ground Intel and weapons from half the world. 😂
Such awesome warriors. Many are training in Europe right now, because Russia flattened all the NATO training centers in Ukraine.
Because this war is about empire and globalism and actually has nothing to do with helping Ukrainians for you koolaid drinkers - I know Iran is helping Russia, suspect China, Pakistan and even Venezuela are helping.
Sit tight and don’t forget the popcorn at the grocery store.
Here is the future...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-global-south-births-new-game-changing-payments-system
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