(Thatās me in the red shirt.)
Not taking up for EVs, cause I will never own one, but ironically, had a friend last week who has a H2 Hummer and he was raging cause it cost him $97 bucks to fill it up.
“Typical EV drivers charge their vehicles only until 80% or so, which makes sessions much shorter and more affordable.”
And much more frequent.
How many miles is that at 80 mph into a 15 mph headwind at 20 deg. F?
it doesn’t mention range (I wonder why?)......
I don’t drive a pick-up, but my friend has one, says he gets 17 mpg.
$97 @ 3.50/gal buys 27.7 gallons....@ 17 mpg gets you 470 miles. does this thin g get 470 miles on a single charge?
Coal hogs.
Charging to 80% vs 100% is not shorter nor more affordable, unless one bases all of their financial decisions on the minimum payment cost on their credit card?
Idiots.
NOT zero!
Wouldn’t want to live where electricity is that high. Here we pay 5.5 cents per KWH. Would have cost $11 to charge that Hummer up.
I’ve read two recent articles where 2 separate inventors of a water-fueled car where murdered.
What’s up with that?
Internet BS or true?
It seems doable since submarines separate the hydrogen from the oxygen and then the hydrogen is expelled overboard. Why couldn’t it be reversed where the oxygen is expelled into the atmosphere and the hydrogen used to power the vehicle?
Before that battery was installed, a fleet of diesel vehicles and diesel powered machinery processed around 1,000,000 pounds of mineral material to get the critical ingredients. Then the minerals were shipped in a diesel powered cargo ship to a diesel powered locomotive to a battery plant in the Western US. Then the battery found its way to the Hummer assembly plant. Maybe by an EV drone?
I don’t know where the joker who did this is at, but I just looked my state’s Public Service Commission site, and find I am paying $0.132 / kWh. Let’s say he’s in California and it’s around twice that at a nice even $0.25 / kWh.
They saw battery has 210 kWh of capacity. I’m seeing AC-to-DC charging efficiency of 92% our there. For the sake of this, let’s say the charging transformer is 90% efficient.
That means to charge from zero to full you’d take
(210 kWh / 0.90) x $0.25 = $58.33
So the cost of ~$97 means there is about $39 of overhead and profit for the charger operator. At minimum, given the assumptions above.
Why not use solar to charge it. The trailer required to produce 210kwh to drive 12,000 miles per year would be 58 feet long. I’m guessing the cost to be in the $150k range.
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The GMC Hummer EV is a not a zero-emissions vehicle. Not a single EV is zero-emission.
SO if an owner charged to 80%, it would still be $77.51. And then you have to set there for an extended period of time. Hope you don’t have any other plans, honky!
Oh, and what’s the range of that 80% charge?
EV’s are a complete joke. No real practical purpose. Virtue signaling only.
Details:
Since most of the road chargers I use are Electrify America, before going on a trip I sign up for a $4/month membership, then cancel the membership when the trip is over. (I don't do that yet because I get a year free membership for first year of owning the EV, but lets pretend that 1 year free charging plan doesn't exist.)
It's 24Ā¢/minute for their 350kW chargers. I drove a total of 1,500 miles. (Really more like 2,100, but I'm excluding the first 220 miles I got from leaving my home with a full charge and starting these numbers from the first charger, plus I'm excluding the miles for a side trip we took while in Texas in which I charged with both ChargePoint and a free charger while we were at a stop for hours both for a picnic and for the women walking around a shopping plaza boring me to death). I spent a total of 119 minutes at the EA chargers. Each of those minutes would cost me 24Ā¢ (again if I didn't have the free charging for a year plan), which would be $28.56.
Altogether it would have cost me $32.56 to charge on the road with the per minute cost + $4 membership fee. Since I left home with a full charge it's only fair to include the cost to fill it back up after I get home again (just like you do with an ICE car so you can go to work the next day). If I didn't have solar at home, then the fill back up when I got home would have cost about $7 (roughly 50kWh at the 14Ā¢/kWh my power utility charged me on my last bill for the power my home drew from the grid beyond what my solar provided).
So about $40 to drive 1,500 miles with about 2 hours total charging time. If my wife wasn't with me and if I was in my ICE pickup, I probably would have spent an hour standing at gas pumps, thus the EV added an hour of wait time. But since my wife is with me on most trips, she likes to stop every 200 miles or so and walk around to stretch her legs anyway. That makes the EV charge time conducive to trips with her.
Heard a new term called charge anxiety from a Tesla driver. He will not drive it more than around 100 mile round trip and uses his wife’s truck for longer trips.
I saw one recently and it is low slung, definitely an urban 4x4, not an off-road 4x4 like my 2008 Hummer H3.
152 minutes to charge.
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Only at fast charging stations! At home at lest two days!