Posted on 11/11/2022 9:11:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Repeat COVID infections can be dangerous, even deadly, even for those who have been vaccinated and boosted according to a brand-new study.
The study by the Washington University School of Medicine and the Veterans Affairs St. Louis Health Care system found that "repeat SARS-CoV-2 infections contribute significant additional risk of adverse health conditions in multiple organ systems."
The findings, published Thursday, Nov. 10 in Nature Medicine, reported that such outcomes include:
Reinfection also contributes to diabetes, kidney disease, and mental health issues even among those who have been vaccinated and boosted, the study said.
“This means that even if you’ve had two COVID-19 infections, it’s better to avoid a third,” said senior author Ziyad Al-Aly, MD, the director of the Clinical Epidemiology Center, and the Chief of Research and Education Service at Veterans Affairs St. Louis Health Care System. “And if you’ve had three infections, it’s best to avoid the fourth.”
Al-Aly said that during the past few months, "there’s been an air of invincibility among people who have had COVID-19 or their vaccinations and boosters, and especially among people who have had an infection and also received vaccines.
"Some people started to refer to these individuals as having a sort of super immunity to the virus."
The risk seemingly increases with each new infection, the study said.
“Without ambiguity," Al-Aly said, "our research showed that getting an infection a second, third or fourth time contributes to additional health risks in the acute phase, meaning the first 30 days after infection, and in the months beyond, meaning the long COVID phase.”
View the findings of the study here.
Non-sequiter at best. Stop relying on magazine articles.
Don't you need a booster or two.
I never asserted that the article advanced that claim. Rather, I explicitly stated that that was my position on the matter. ("Fixed it!")
From the article: “Al-Aly said. “People should do their best to prevent repeat infections by masking, for example, getting all of their eligible boosters, staying home when sick.”
Saying that people should do something is NOT proof that people should do something. Does Al-Aly present hard evidence that vaxxing is more effective at preventing re-infection than naturally acquired immunity?
No, didn't think so! Instead, Al-Aly takes a page from the lazy man's rule book and simply asserts it!
Regards,
Polynikes wrote: “Non-sequiter at best. Stop relying on magazine articles.”
You might benefit from reading the articles.
Yeah, 75 million Americans are a "small minority."
Fewer Americans voted for Biden.
Regards,
alexander_busek wrote: “Saying that people should do something is NOT proof that people should do something. Does Al-Aly present hard evidence that vaxxing is more effective at preventing re-infection than naturally acquired immunity?”
Ziyad Al-Aly, MD, the director of the Clinical Epidemiology Center, and the Chief of Research and Education Service at Veterans Affairs St. Louis Health Care System.
The author has more credibility than an anonymous poster on the internet.
Acquired immunity requires infection. Acquired immunity wanes requiring more infections. But feel free to ignore this: “Repeat Infections Can Be Dangerous, Even Deadly.”
If you choose to believe him, you are free to do so. Until he presents hard evidence backing up his "should do," I am going to continue mocking him.
Al-Aly's statement was, in any case, overbroad, implying as it does that EVERYONE (all age groups, regardless of preconditions, etc.) should do as they are told.
This is tantamount to insisting that EVERYONE should get chemotherapy, because chemotherapy fights cancer.
And I'm not anonymous.
Regards,
I read the study. Didn’t have even have to rely on Reuters.
Say hello to Elon maybe he can give you your account back.
alexander_busek wrote: “This is tantamount to insisting that EVERYONE should get chemotherapy, because chemotherapy fights cancer.”
There is no logic behind that absurd comparison. You’re allowing your aversion to vaccines to cloud your reasoning abilities.
I have no aversion to vaccines; where did you get that?
In the course of my lifetime, I have taken numerous vaccines. They all had proven effectiveness rates of more than 95%. And of them, only my Tetanus shots needing refreshing, every ten years or so. And the pharmaceutical companies that prepared the vaccines had never been exempted from all liability.
The COVID vaxxes do not meet those criteria.
Regards,
alexander_busek wrote: “In the course of my lifetime, I have taken numerous vaccines. They all had proven effectiveness rates of more than 95%. And of them, only my Tetanus shots needing refreshing, every ten years or so. And the pharmaceutical companies that prepared the vaccines had never been exempted from all liability. The COVID vaxxes do not meet those criteria.”
So, you forgo all medical treatments that only have a 95% effectiveness? Really? You would turn down a treatment that only had a 50% chance of saving your life?
BTW, All pharmaceutical companies that make vaccines have the same exemptions from liability. The COVID vaccines are not unique in that exemption regardless of what you read on the internet. And, it doesn’t extend to all liability.
I beg to challenge your 260m number. How many were fully VAXXED with the primary series? Call it 260 just for fun.
NOW, how many of that 260 got booster #1? I’d guess 200m at best.
NOW, how many of that 200 got booster #2? Let’s for fun say 150m.
NOW how many got booster #3? I hear uptake is very low.
See my point, your full up VAXXED/boosted number shrinks with every booster. The bigger concern is the ever growing group of partially VAXXED. That’s the only group growing. Most likely problems will be centered there. Also, why does someone STILL need the primary series if that strain is long gone? More like they are just using up leftover stocks. I assumed they had a shelf life too. Exercise and diet is best defense!
There was no test in February of 2020, but I had all the classic symptoms. Fever spiked to 102.9 (and I rarely run any fever even with bad flu — did when I had malaria, though), chest filled with fluid, felt like I was drowning, only time in my life I wondered if I might die (and I’ve had a few nasty tropical diseases). I caught it from a lady who had just travelled from New York, and another lady caught it from her, too, at the same encounter where she coughed on us in a hallway and she was super sick as well. I suddenly got better after three days, but fatigue and loss of taste and smell lingered for months.
After Omicron (which was pretty mild) I tested positive for antibodies — otherwise I would have wondered whether it was Omicron or just a bug (I never catch colds, for some reason).
I did not invent those numbers. Simple search on Duck Duck Go is where I got those. I believe those search results more than your individual opinions.
This is my every other day routine. 15-20 minutes on treadmill with wrist weights followed by lifts of weights on the weight machines. Took a break of 6 days due to covid infection which my body fought off in 2 short days. Resuming gym this evening.
We agree, there is absolutely nothing better to stay healthy than regular exercise. I am at age 82 and going strong.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ffer2lIHm8o
...those who received Remdisivir, which also causes spike proteins...
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I saw that article. Has anyone postulated the mechanism by which Remdesivir creates spike proteins?
Your BS doesn’t fly here, never did. I haven’t taken the vaxx and got covid. I recovered after a few days and haven’t had any problems since. I’m almost 70 and am in excellent health.
BTW, what happened to the rest of your Branch Covidian buddies?
Now I know that you aren't to be taken seriously!
You are namely ascribing to the Vaxx the ability to miraculously double my chances of surviving the Corona pandemic.
In actual fact, on the basis of my personal circumstances, my chances of surviving were (statistically speaking) about 99.92%. How could taking the Jab possibly double those already phenomenally good odds?
I find it also highly invalidating that your argumentation doesn't even take into account sex, age, state of health, possible comorbidities, etc.
The article repeats a blanket exhortation for everyone to "get boostered," etc. - as though that were necessary for all demographic groups.
Poppycock!
Regards,
alexander_busek wrote: “You are namely ascribing to the Vaxx the ability to miraculously double my chances of surviving the Corona pandemic.”
You know that isn’t what I said. You said you needed at least a 95% efficiency from a vaccine. The question is, if 95% is your minimum, would your turn down a treatment that has only a 50% chance of saving your life? Why are your dodging the question?
alexander_busek wrote: “In actual fact, on the basis of my personal circumstances, my chances of surviving were (statistically speaking) about 99.92%. How could taking the Jab possibly double those already phenomenally good odds?”
The survival rate for polio was 99.975%. Did you refuse, for yourself or your children, the polio vaccine because of those phenomenally good odds?
wjcsux wrote: “Your BS doesn’t fly here, never did.”
That’s a sweeping generalization. Only the rabid anti-vaxxers disagree with me.
wjcsux wrote: “ I haven’t taken the vaxx and got covid. I recovered after a few days and haven’t had any problems since. I’m almost 70 and am in excellent health.”
You should read the article which clearly indicates that the repeated infections you’re leaving yourself open to can be deadly.
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