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FROM THE ARMY OF THE POTOMAC: Gen. McClellan to Leave for the North To-Day: Farewell to the Officers at Headquarters (11/11/1862)
New York Times - Times Machine ^ | 11/11/1862

Posted on 11/11/2022 5:49:12 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

HEADQUARTERS ARMY OF THE POTOMAC, WARRENTON, Monday, Nov. 10.

Gen. MCCLELLAN was to have left yesterday for the North, but the transferring of a command like this could not ho accomplished in a day, and he was, therefore, compelled to remain.

At 9 o'clock last evening, all the officers belonging to headquarters assembled at the General's tent to bid him farewell. The only toast given was by Gen. MCCLELLAN:

The Army of the Potomac.

Gen. MCCLELLAN and staff, accompanied by Gen. BURNSIDE, to-day, bid farewell to his army, visiting in succession the several army corps. As the General rode through the ranks, the torn and shattered banners of the veteran regiments were dipped to greet him, while the thousands of soldiers gave vent in continuous rounds of cheers and applause to their feelings.

The General and staff will leave by special train, to-morrow, for the North.

The following order was issued by Gen. BURNSIDE on taking command of the army:

"In accordance with General Orders No. 182, issued by the President of the United States, I hereby assume command of the Army of the Potomac. Patriotism, and the exercise of my every energy in the direction of this army, aided by the full and hearty cooperation of its officers and men, will, I hope, under the blessing of God, insure its success.

Having been a sharer of the privations and a witness of the bravery of the old Army of the Potomac in the Mainland campaign, and fully identified with them in their feeling of respect and esteem for Gen. MCCLELLAN, entertained through a long and most friendly association with him, I feel that it is not as a stranger I assume command.

To the Ninth Army Corps, so long and intimately associated with me, I need say nothing.

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1 posted on 11/11/2022 5:49:12 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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2 posted on 11/11/2022 5:50:08 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: chajin; henkster; CougarGA7; BroJoeK; central_va; Larry Lucido; wagglebee; Colonel_Flagg; Amagi; ...

From the Army of the Potomac: Gen. McClellan to Leave for the North To-Day – 2-3
Recapture of Fredericksburg: A Brilliant Dash by a Detachment of Bayard’s Cavalry – 3
News from Washington: War Bulletin – 3-4
Editorial: The Removal of Gen. McClellan – 4-5
Editorial: The Slave-Trade in New-York – 5
Emancipation in Missouri – 5


3 posted on 11/11/2022 5:51:05 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Buh Bye!


4 posted on 11/11/2022 5:54:24 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

McClellan cared about the lives of his men. Burnside, Hooker, .grant all saw them as cannon fodder to achieve an objective.


5 posted on 11/11/2022 6:25:35 AM PST by georgiarat (We must be free not because we claim freedom, but because we practice it. William Faulkner )
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To: georgiarat

And Lincoln. What did he care about? How did he see those men?


6 posted on 11/11/2022 6:39:01 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: georgiarat

McClellan understood training and logistics, but did not understand fighting. He took counsel of his fears every time, and saw an enemy army behind every tree. If he had used his huge Army of the Potomac properly, the war in Northern Virginia likely would have been over in a few months.

Grant made mistakes, but he did not run away at the first setback, as Burnside, Hooker and other Union generals did.


7 posted on 11/11/2022 7:42:09 AM PST by jimtorr
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Agree McClellan was better at logistics and training than fighting. However, he also valued the lives of his men and felt pressure and blockades would be effective in bringing the South to its knees without major loss of life and enduring bitterness between the two sides.

Lincoln, Halle k, Grant, Sherman did not care how many lives were lost nor the long term consequences to the country from their actions. It took more than a century for the country to recover from those actions.


8 posted on 11/11/2022 8:31:19 AM PST by georgiarat (We must be free not because we claim freedom, but because we practice it. William Faulkner )
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To: georgiarat; jimtorr; one guy in new jersey
georgiarat: "However, he [McClellan] also valued the lives of his men and felt pressure and blockades would be effective in bringing the South to its knees without major loss of life and enduring bitterness between the two sides."

Those are opinions perhaps appropriate for a President, but not for a general whose only job is to defeat the enemy.
So McClellan ran for President in 1864 on the promise to bring the civil war to a negotiated settlement -- meaning a Confederate victory.

And McClellan and the Confederacy might well have won in 1864, if not for the "hard war" fought by the likes of Union generals Grant, Sherman, Sheridan & others.

georgiarat: "Lincoln, Halle k, Grant, Sherman did not care how many lives were lost nor the long term consequences to the country from their actions."

Lincoln, Halleck, Grant & Sherman believed that only military victory would preserve the Union and destroy slavery.
They were Republicans.
Democrats like McClellan could not put their hearts into a battle to defeat their fellow Democrat Confederates.
They wanted to negotiate a Democrat victory in the South.
And in 1864 they came very close to success.

georgiarat: "It took more than a century for the country to recover from those actions."

Recovery in the South from Civil War took about 12 years -- until the 1877 withdrawal of Federal troops from former Confederate states following the Compromise of 1877.
Then Democrats quickly restored the Old Order of slavery (in all but name) in the South, Black Codes, Segregation, Discrimination, KKK terrorism and effective nullification of the 13th, 14th & 15th Amendments for most of the next 100 years.

9 posted on 11/11/2022 2:06:29 PM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: georgiarat

Yes, McClellan cared about the lives of his men. Too much. Sometimes a commander must spend lives to quickly end the war.
You mention Yankee commanders using men as cannon fodder but Lee, Bragg, Hood, and the rest didn’t hesitate to send their men in frontal assaults against Yankee artillery.


10 posted on 11/11/2022 4:46:50 PM PST by rxh4n1
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To: BroJoeK

You obviously did not live in the South or have Parents and grandparents who lived from 1900 onward. The hatred was real and endured until the 197o’s at a high level. A whole county in Georgia was almost entirely purchased/stolen by Dodge. Revisionist history does not change the reality of the times.


11 posted on 11/11/2022 6:27:22 PM PST by georgiarat (We must be free not because we claim freedom, but because we practice it. William Faulkner )
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georgiarat: "You obviously did not live in the South or have Parents and grandparents who lived from 1900 onward."

My mother was born in western North Carolina in 1921, her family & neighbors had been Unionists, suffered the Shelton Laurel Massacre.

georgiarat: "The hatred was real and endured until the 197o’s at a high level. "

Those people were all Democrats, and by definition, Democrats are insane with hatred for their fellow Americans, and for the United States.
Being a Democrat means you want to legally suppress some of your neighbors in order to legally benefit yourself -- it's legalized theft, nothing more.

georgiarat: "A whole county in Georgia was almost entirely purchased/stolen by Dodge.
Revisionist history does not change the reality of the times."

Just ask yourself -- did you learn your version of history from Democrats?
If so, then it is 100% lies and you should trash all of it, go back and learn some real history.
Truth will cure the insanity you learned as a child, FRiend.

12 posted on 11/12/2022 5:11:28 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK

My family has lived in .Georgia since 1820’s so a Johnny come lately family like yours has no idea what happened. Try reading detail writings and govt documents fron the era.

Read about Dodge county Ga in the the late 1860’s and 70’s. Look at the northerners than came down and purchased huge tracts of land for Pennie’s per acre with the help of the installed govt in the late 1860’s until 1877.

Just maybe you should read and listen more than trying to write about a subject that is so foreign to your knowledge base.


13 posted on 11/12/2022 12:12:00 PM PST by georgiarat (We must be free not because we claim freedom, but because we practice it. William Faulkner )
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To: georgiarat
georgiarat: "My family has lived in .Georgia since 1820’s so a Johnny come lately family like yours has no idea what happened.
Try reading detail writings and govt documents fron the era."

Confederates murdered the ancestors of my family and their neighbors in western North Carolina -- look it up, the Shelton Laurel Massacre, January 18, 1863.
Also at Nueces, Texas Massacre, August 10, 1862 -- those also were my ancestors' neighbors.

That's what I know about insane Democrat Confederates.
The rest is unimportant.

georgiarat: "Read about Dodge county Ga in the the late 1860’s and 70’s.
Look at the northerners than came down and purchased huge tracts of land for Pennie’s per acre with the help of the installed govt in the late 1860’s until 1877."

Do I understand you correctly?
Do you argue that since some northerners purchased some land in Georgia after the Civil War, that justifies and explains why Southern Democrat Fire Eaters declared secession and war against the United States in 1861, then massacred civilians in places like Shelton Laurel, North Carolina and Nueces, Texas, both of which affected my family and/or their neighbors?

georgiarat: "Just maybe you should read and listen more than trying to write about a subject that is so foreign to your knowledge base."

(left) Nueces, Texas Massacre, August 10, 1862
(right) Shelton Laurel, North Carolina, Massacre, January 18, 1863:


14 posted on 11/13/2022 3:33:27 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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