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The Universe as We Understand It May Be Impossible
The Atlantic ^ | Natalie Wolchover and Quanta Magazine

Posted on 10/27/2022 1:59:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway

I am thinking that the closer we get to understanding the properties of matter, the closer we get to understanding God.


81 posted on 10/27/2022 11:54:39 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: glorgau
This is where “Impossible Burgers” come from.

I was curious and tried one of those things. The name is correct. It is impossible that I will order another one of those things again.

82 posted on 10/28/2022 1:36:11 AM PDT by fso301
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To: nickcarraway

Whoops! A big chunk of grant money just went up in smoke!


83 posted on 10/28/2022 2:46:24 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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To: zeugma

“I find the universe to be rather clumpy.”

That would change the variables wouldn’t it? From the article everything they are doing is to “try and explain why it is smooth and flat”. How do they know it is smooth and flat in the first place? If it is clumpy it would negate everything they doing right? Already been barking up the wrong tree the whole time?


84 posted on 10/28/2022 5:27:51 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

In physics you can never be right, you can only be proven wrong.


85 posted on 10/28/2022 6:02:42 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: rellic

First there was nothing and then it exploded.


86 posted on 10/28/2022 6:04:39 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: boatbums

“Many evolutionists (the honest ones) admit they hold to that theory because the only alternative is a Creator and they refuse to accept it.”

Telos (design, purpose) can exist without a Creator.

I know you don’t get that—and scientists don’t get it either....

Everybody needs to drop all their cultural assumptions and start all over again....


87 posted on 10/28/2022 6:30:40 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Fractal Trader; 6SJ7; AdmSmith; AFPhys; Arkinsaw; allmost; aristotleman; autumnraine; bajabaja; ...
Thanks Fractal Trader.


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Not Even Wrong: The Failure of String Theory and the Search for Unity in Physical Law
Not Even Wrong: The Failure of String Theory
and the Search for Unity in Physical Law

by Peter Woit | September 4, 2007


88 posted on 10/28/2022 8:20:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Great book!


89 posted on 10/28/2022 8:34:53 AM PDT by Reily
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To: dfwgator; Harmless Teddy Bear
"I thought The Hokey Pokey was what it's all about."

Only if you first turn yourself about -- which sort of seems like what they're getting ready to do, doesn't it?

Let's call it the quantum hokey string pokey-T.O.E.!

Maybe that's what it's all about?

90 posted on 10/28/2022 9:16:16 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: dfwgator

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey6ugTmCYMk


91 posted on 10/28/2022 12:34:57 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: cgbg
Telos (design, purpose) can exist without a Creator. I know you don’t get that—and scientists don’t get it either.... Everybody needs to drop all their cultural assumptions and start all over again....

How do you get "design, purpose" without a designER? Is having a personal God/Creator your sticking point? How do you start all over again with no assumptions when you begin with recognizing design and purpose to the universe?

92 posted on 10/29/2022 3:35:12 PM PDT by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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To: boatbums

Von Neumann machines, nanotechnology, time loops, parallel universes and then throw in consciousness as an aspect of some sorts of matter.

You can mix and match those—and that is just based on today’s limited imagination—a civilization a thousand years ahead of us could probably come up with many more possibilities.

We are primitive apes—with a nasty touch of arrogance to go with our ignorance.


93 posted on 10/29/2022 4:27:48 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: cgbg
And you still avoid the all-important question...FIRST CAUSE? The First Cause Argument
94 posted on 10/29/2022 4:47:40 PM PDT by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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To: cgbg
And you still avoid the all-important question...FIRST CAUSE? The First Cause Argument
95 posted on 10/29/2022 4:47:40 PM PDT by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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To: boatbums

“First Cause” has a bunch of hidden assumptions—any or all of which may prove to be incorrect.

It totally begs the question—a question we cannot even begin to understand, much less answer.

For starters we do not even know how time works—whether it is truly sequential or whether that is just a manifestation of the way our minds work.


96 posted on 10/29/2022 4:51:36 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: cgbg
People smarter than you or I could ever hope to be have pondered the question of origin/first cause for thousands of years. You simply cannot begin to understand much less answer that question without basic assumptions. You'd have to ignore far too much and what good would that do you?

Why not just admit you reject a God/Creator/Designer and invent your own theory of everything or you could do like many atheists and surmise aliens did it? Of course, where THEY came from has to be ignored. ;o)

The answers ARE there if you earnestly seek to know. God says He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him. It takes faith to please Him but you would have to exercise that muscle regardless of your conclusion. I hope you find the answers.

97 posted on 10/30/2022 5:24:44 PM PDT by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Correct.


98 posted on 11/08/2022 2:33:20 PM PST by sourcery (‘We Are An Evil Company.. You’re Better Off Catching COVID Than Getting Vaccine’ ~ 3 Pfizer Scientis)
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To: I want the USA back

Actually Sheldon had a crisis about string theory a season or two before I stopped watching. He then abandoned string theory and presumably remained string free for the rest of the shows run.


99 posted on 11/08/2022 3:10:48 PM PST by xp38 (!)
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To: I want the USA back

Actually Sheldon had a crisis about string theory a season or two before I stopped watching. He then abandoned string theory and presumably remained string free for the rest of the run.


100 posted on 11/08/2022 3:31:29 PM PST by xp38 (!)
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