Posted on 10/22/2022 1:41:21 PM PDT by Widget Jr
Turkish Armed Forces Receives First Sahin Counter-Unmanned Aerial Vehicle System - MilitaryLeak
Turkish Armed Forces Receives First Sahin Counter-Unmanned Aerial Vehicle System
Aselsan’s Sahin (HAWK) counter-unmanned aerial vehicle (C-UAV) system has entered the inventory of the Turkish Armed Forces. According to video published on the head of Turkey’s President of the Defence Industry Agency (DIA) Twitter account showed the turreted Sahin mounted on a trailer destroying rotary- and fixed-wing mini and micro UAVs with Atom 40 mm ammunition. It is easy to deploy and install and can be used for missions such as protecting critical infrastructure, border security, and air defence. ASELSAN has developed the anti-UAV system within the contract signed with DIA.
selsan’s Sahin (HAWK) counter-unmanned aerial vehicle (C-UAV)
The Sahin System is developed to destroy rotary-wing and fixed-wing mini/micro UAV model aircraft threats. It consists of a radar, electro-optic system and 40 mm automatic grenade launcher. It performs automatic target detection and tracking using electro-optical cameras on its stabilised turret. It can be connected to radar or command-and-control systems. The remote-controlled Sahin has an effective range of 700 m against mini and micro UAVs, according to Aselsan. The system can perform target tracking and ballistic calculations for the target by providing engagement to the position reported from the radar.
Aselsan’s Sahin (HAWK) counter-unmanned aerial vehicle (C-UAV)
The grenade launcher fires a 40 mm high-velocity airburst grenade called ATOM. ATOM 40 mm is programmed via Fire Control Unit (FCU), which can be integrated into any automatic grenade launcher. The 40 mm ATOM is smart ammunition which can be programmed to the exact time of detonation while leaving the barrel. Once fired, the time-programmable fuse counts down for detonation at the intended target point. Using a pre-fragmented shell which is optimized for the target set, high hit probability is ensured. FCU provides the user to see and approve the target, measures the distance to the target and calculates the time required for the ammunition to air burst.
Aselsan’s Atom 40 mm high-velocity airburst grenade
Aselsan (Askeri Elektronik Sanayi, Military Electronic Industries), Aselsan A.S. is a Turkish defense corporation headquartered in Ankara, Turkey. Its main operating area is research, development and manufacture of advanced military products for air, land and maritime forces. The company is one of the major contractors of Turkish Armed Forces. Aselsan was ranked by Defense News as 48th largest defense company in terms of revenue. Turkish Army Foundation is the founder and major stockholder. ASELSAN designs, develops and manufactures modern electronic systems for military and industrial customers in Turkey and abroad. The company headquarters is located at Macunkoy facilities in Ankara, Turkey.
Aselsan’s Atom 40 mm high-velocity airburst grenade
Take a MK-19 40mm grenade launcher, load it with minature proximity fuzed munitions, put that in a stablized turret using modern fire control system, with lots of computers, FLIR, laser range finders, and shoot down drones. Looks like Turkey is ahead of the curve on this. There several possible "hard kill" systems to counter drones like the Iranian Shahed 136.
For your interests. For those who have the technical and professional experience with military matters or munitions, I would like to know what your thoughts are on this.
Why hasn’t this equipment been given to the Ukes?
“…programmed to the exact time of detonation while leaving the barrel.”
Can that be true. The munition is at the end of the barrel for microseconds.
T here are a few systems using 40 mm grenade launchers or 30 mm automatic cannons with proximity rounds to destroy drones. Examples are the Striker SHORAD with Stingers and a long barreled 30 mm chain gun, possibly a laser weapon, and the Raytheon Pike which is a 40 mm grenade launcher fired missile. These systems are going to get a lot of interest for anti drone defense now.
You seem to be very knowledgeable. In general warfare between the US and China (prior to crossing the nuclear threshold) how safe are American carriers sitting off the coast of Taiwan?
Gephard might have advantages in mobility and range and is fully self supported. No auxiliary vehicle needed. IIRC, the Gephard is built on Leopard 1 tank chassis and uses standard 20 or 30mm auto cannons. It can be used for point defense or run with the mech units. Heavy iron. Don't sleep on older tech.
I forgot the video link: 40 mm Fiziksel İmha Sistemi ilk kez envantere girdi. In the late 1990s Oerlikon developed a proximity fuze system for their 35 mm guns, using a muzzle chronograph to set a timed fuze, the Millennium gun using "AHEAD" ammunition. This set the fuzing for each individual round and accounts for variances in muzzle velocity.
The Turkish system looks like it has a thicker than usual barrel for a MK-19, so maybe it uses a similar system?
LOL...Looks like flak in WW II (with more intelligence).
First, What we are seeing in Ukraine is political and military leadership is always more important than academic theory or paper performance of systems. Russia is giving a historic lesson on how not to wage war. China has not had a major military conflict since the 1970 border conflicts with Viet Nam. The Chinese military has comparable internal weaknesses to the Russian military.
From the China Uncensored channel in 2015, and definitely having a anti-China bias, 10 Signs China's Military Is Weaker Than You Think. Corruption, internal politics, and using the military for personal advancement in the Communist Party are more important than actually being able to fight. It is doubtful that China is really working to fix these problems. It took eight years after 2014 for Ukraine to get its army where it was before the invasion started. For all of China's bluster, as long as those problems continue they do not have a chance of successfully invading Taiwan.
As far as the military threat China poses to Taiwan and the USN, it is clearly real, I also think it is over hyped in some quarters. During the Cold War the USN had the same threats from Russia, ICBMs, SLBMs, cruise missiles launched from land, air, ship and submarines. The USN was working on ways to deal with nuclear weapons going back to the first nuclear bomb tests at Bikini Atoll. It is the same problem from a different country.
Hypersonic weapons as a cross between a ICBM and cruise missiles are a new threat. Defenses always evolving to match new threats. The first US Navy AEGIS using SM-2s is now up to the SM-6. It was a SM-3 which shot down a satellite in 2008. The Army's Patriot SAM has evolved into the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD). The counters to hypersonic weapons are getting developed and will get deployed.
I’m not really interested in your analysis of the political situation or the dynamic in Europe or China. I have a very clear understanding of what’s happening. I have limited knowledge of the current Chinese capabilities in shore and air to ship missile and torpedo technology. The Chinese will not invade Taiwan, they will blockade Taiwan. It will be left to the USN to break that blockade. I’m of the opinion, historically speaking and with my limited knowledge of Chinese technology, that WWIII will be to the aircraft carrier what the American Civil War was to wooden hulled ships and WWII was to battleships. Of course, the sinking of an American carrier will most assuredly escalate the war across the nuclear threshold.
From your apparent knowledge of these systems, do the Chinese have the wherewithal to conventionally sink an American carrier?
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