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Putin’s War in Ukraine May Destroy Russia
wsj ^ | 20 oCT 2022 | Michael Khodarkovsky

Posted on 10/21/2022 7:31:04 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

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To: wardaddy

“...I have spent a lot of time looking at all new sources about this so-called war and I can tell you right now western propaganda dwarfs anything you Get from third parties or Russian media...”

Just like Geraldo Rivera you love to use yourself as a source. Your real sources have been Moscow talking points since day one.

“...Support for this war and for Vladimir Putin is very high in Russia like in the 80s...”

And just how does Mister Middle Tennessee know this? Is it easy in Moscow to mention any opposition to Putin? Are polls reliable? Just ask Alexei Navalny, Boris Nemtsov, Olga Smirnova, Yulia Latynina, and Mikhail Khodorkovsky.


61 posted on 10/21/2022 9:02:27 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: Farmerbob

You put your finger on the problem. Any pipeline running “close” to Russia is under threat of seizure.


62 posted on 10/21/2022 9:07:08 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: wardaddy
Support for this war and for Vladimir Putin is very high in Russia like in the 80s...

Well, seems like most of his new conscripts are in their 80's...the younger ones have left the country.


63 posted on 10/21/2022 9:12:34 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: DUMBGRUNT
..Mr. Putin should look to history

He has.
Russia beat Napoleon and Hitler after they had invaded all the way to Moscow.
Zelensky the clown? Russia will chew him up and spit him out.

64 posted on 10/21/2022 9:12:53 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: DUMBGRUNT
How does that change the outcome for Russia?

You mean the inevitable victory of Russia?

65 posted on 10/21/2022 9:14:27 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: wardaddy

Oh please great enlightened one, can you share us your list of reliable news sources? The many unwashed among us are in desperate need to be awakened to the truth. 🙄


66 posted on 10/21/2022 9:16:36 AM PDT by Salohcin
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To: Magnum44
Cant see anyone in their 80’s in that picture.
And almost all the young are still in the country.
67 posted on 10/21/2022 9:19:14 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Who hell believes this nonsense? You have to be a Dumb Grunt to believe it.

The ruble is the top performing currency of the year. Russia has more surplus revenue now than it did a year ago. It just annexed territory that accounted for 70-80% of Ukraine's GDP. Inflation, unlike in the West, is receding and Russia has been cutting interest rates.

Russia is now in powerful economic alliance with China and India with Saudi Arabia and Turkey apparently joining in.

68 posted on 10/21/2022 9:19:23 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: dfwgator
If history has taught us anything, it’s that one baddie will replace another.

Who replaced Hitler?

I know that Grand Admiral Dönitz temporarily inherited the office of Reichspräsident and held it for a scant two weeks.

Shall we agree that Konrad Adenauer, the first Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany), was effectively his successor?

Adenauer was by no means a "baddie."

Regards,

69 posted on 10/21/2022 9:19:31 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: PIF
Your terms are acceptable!

Regards,

70 posted on 10/21/2022 9:20:37 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek
Who replaced Hitler?

Stalin. And who replaced Tojo? Mao.

71 posted on 10/21/2022 9:20:56 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: cranked

Appreciate the links. But can somebody tell me why every time I go up to rumble it’s a pop-up pile on to the point where I basically have to shut that window down. It’s ridiculous.


72 posted on 10/21/2022 9:21:51 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: SmokingJoe
And almost all the young are still in the country.

And they are so excited to be there


73 posted on 10/21/2022 9:23:47 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Clutch Martin

Can’t help you on that.

I created a Rumble account long time ago and have not had those issues, so maybe that my be a possible solution? Dunno. Wish I could be more help. Sorry.


74 posted on 10/21/2022 9:24:50 AM PDT by cranked
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To: amnestynone

“Wow, a world without Russia! The world will be much safer if Russia disintegrates”

“horror vacui” - Aristotle


75 posted on 10/21/2022 9:27:02 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: Tallguy
Thank You!

--"A lot of "Russian" petroleum & natural gas actually comes from majority-Muslim areas like Kazakhstan and distributed through pipelines running thru Russian territory toward Europe. "

THE PIPELINES! Talk about a tooth-to-tail ratio!

Early in my misspent youth, I had a summer job on a cross-country pipeline. A common joke was that anyone with a shovel could tap into them... Now common in Mexico.

Near impossible to defend.

76 posted on 10/21/2022 9:29:10 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: SmokingJoe; Magnum44
And almost all the young are still in the country.

True! At most 5% of the young intelligentsia have fled the country since Russia launched its unprovoked invasion on Feb. 24, 2022.

Well, since the declaration of a "partial mobilization," at most another 5% have either left or "gone off the grid" or otherwise attempted to elude capture.

So, you see: Everything's "hunky-dory" in PutinLand!

Regards,

77 posted on 10/21/2022 9:29:47 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Magnum44

Dementia Joe has thrown hundreds of Jan 6 protesters in jail for 18 months, with no charges and in chains and in isolation.
You wanna talk about that?


78 posted on 10/21/2022 9:30:27 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: PGR88

—”8-10% inflation in US”

And you believe that would be so if Trump had remained in office?

Guess again.


79 posted on 10/21/2022 9:31:06 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: Ciexyz

Russia has existed only since around 1400.

China is millenia old.

Heck, Prussia was formed before Russia and it’s gone now, never to rise again.


80 posted on 10/21/2022 9:32:06 AM PDT by Cronos
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