Posted on 10/21/2022 4:47:31 AM PDT by EBH
Workers quit in high numbers over the past few years — sometimes after being at the job under a year.
Some employers are demanding that quitting workers reimburse them for their training costs.
These agreements have generally been upheld in court, but are beginning to come under more scrutiny.
Companies have grappled with labor shortages over the last few years as workers have quit at near-record rates. Now some businesses are trying to make it more costly for employees to join the Great Resignation.
Nearly 10% of US workers are covered by training repayment agreement provisions, according to a study from the Cornell Survey Research Institute, first reported on by Reuters. These provisions, or "TRAPS" as critics calls them, require workers to reimburse their employer for some of their job training costs if they quit too soon.
Most prevalent in the healthcare, trucking, and retail industries, these agreements can cost quitting workers thousands of dollars. The Student Borrower Protection Center estimated in July that these agreements are prevalent in industries that collectively employ over one-third of US private-sector workers.
"Employers are looking for ways to keep their workers from quitting without raising wages or improving working conditions," Jonathan Harris, an associate law professor at Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles, told Reuters.
Over the last several years, there's been an increase in not just quitting, but "quick quitting" — leaving one's job after less than 12 months, according to LinkedIn data. This was up nearly 10% versus the prior year as of March and remains elevated today.
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If the employee does sue the employer because of the training fee, it’s a public record and that certainly would hurt their future employment chances. Oftentimes short term employees won’t list their employment if they have another job but a lawsuit against an employer will stand out.
>>You comment like a slave-holding ass.
You sign a contract when you are hired that says if you quit before a certain time you need to reimburse the employer for certain training costs - and somehow it’s the employers fault when they try to enforce it?
I think you are on the wrong forum.
Don’t like the employers terms for employment? Don’t work there - pretty simple.
Yep, too much time at one company without significant promotions, is as much a red flag these days as job hopping.
Bwahahahaha.
One of most idiotic statements ever
Early ‘90s Sears flew me from NJ to Chicago for HVAC training. That same year local management took to layoffs between seasons so I left. That would have been some bill to re-pay!
I worked at many start ups. IF we were around after two years it was amazing
The union skilled trades are notorious for that. They provide you with about a 6 year apprenticeship then they own you.
For example, say you're with the IBEW which usually places you in a union job with some company.
If you get laid off, you're placed at the bottom of the placement list. If you decide to go out and get a job in a non union facility, they'll bust you and force you to repay the estimated cost of the training.
I still don’t understand how people just quit and make ends meet especially with prices out of control.
I don’t understand how a lot of people are making it period. Watching Live PD the other night and pointed out to my wife the number of people driving without licenses, current license tags, or insurance. It looked like of lot of them could not afford them, even their vehicles are run down. But, SloJoe says our economy is doing great. Perhaps, inside the DC beltway.
They cannot do that, unless there is a contract which states as such...
I’ve never signed a contract saying that... and I doubt I ever would.
[You sign a contract when you are hired that says if you quit before a certain time you need to reimburse the employer for certain training costs ]
It's not an uncommon problem in the trucking industry, for example.
Hardly.
You’d be surprised how many people don’t bother to carefully read and take care to understand an employment contract that one is required to sign as a condition of employment.
As an employer you have a choice.
You can train up your employees, and risk that they might leave.
Or, you can opt to not train them, and risk that they might stay.
Yet these companies hire the same “quitters” for more money while their long term employees get the 2% raise.
Ummmm, yeaaaaaaah....if you didn’t do that....that would be great....
This is likely more useful as a deterrent.
It’ll keep more people from using a job as a stepping stone to something else.
I have no problem with it as long as the requirements are clearly laid out in a contract.
Skirts the line, but no.
They are free to quit.
As a practical matter it’s basically impossible to collect. Yhr employer would
Have to sue.
Maybe send a 1099 for forgiveness of debt.
These days they’re far more likely to hire far cheaper and more compliant H1Bs.
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