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To: eyeamok; nickcarraway; es345st; alexander_busek; EEGator; JJBookman; dsrtsage; GOP_Party_Animal; ...
A few weeks ago, someone challenged the assertion that there are more sudden youth deaths nowadays vs prior to the mRNA shots under EUA being administered. The skeptic said that all we are seeing is a contemporary cheery-picking of "died suddenly" stories by antivaxxers with no investigation into what was the actual historical quantim of sudden-deaths.

Here is a data-driven response:

A study Sudden Deaths in Young Competitive Athletes-Analysis of 1866 Deaths in the United States, 1980–2006 shows an average of sixty-six (66) deaths per year.

A separate global study, Sudden cardiac death in athletes: the Lausanne Recommendations lists 1101 (1966-2004) reported cases in athletes under 35 years, or an average of 29 per year.

This data set of citizen reports shows 718 (and counting) of such deaths in 2022.

Now, these data are apples and oranges. The peer data averages may be downed-biased because the researchers didn't have Internet search capabilities back then. Also the first study is US only and the Lausanne study is global. Finally, the citizen dataset is not totally homogenous with that of the peer data, most notably on an age basis.

Thus, let's fix what we can - the age difference.

Let's take the citizen dataset, and focus on people 13-25 (the age range with the first study). Through October 15, 2022, I count seven such deaths, Sept 2022-17 , Aug 2022-about 30, July 2022-15, June 2022-22, May 2022-19, April 2022-22, March 2022-44 (that was a tough month), February 2022-17, January 2022-31.

Grand total through Oct 15, 2022 is 224.

If I annualized these 224 deaths through 287 days, I'd get 285 deaths. That's waaaaaay more than the benchmarks. Notwithsndingnthe pros and cons to the data sets, this result should be, for people of good faith, worthy of a "hmmmmm...." and further investigation. Something is up.

Now, let's be honest: these citizen datasets suffer from a lack of consistency in data capture, recording, and processing that the benchmark data possess (though they, as noted, the benchmarks likely suffer from a reporting limitation). It's the same reason why clinical trials are so important in assessing whether or not a shot should graduate to a vaccine. Thus, nobody should do a victory lap with 224 or 287. Indeed, we are taking about young people dying - nobody should be happy.

I am also not going to claim that all of this data are prima facie evidence that the shots are causing these sudden deaths. In fact, I am hoping that the claim that zillions of shot-recipients will be dead in five years turns out to be as wrong as it is sensational.

However, considering the virtual absence of legitimate data capture with consistent recording, data scrubbing, and verification, we drink the dirty water at the oasis in this desert.

The data are compelling - SOMETHING bad is happening to youths.

Let's keep in mind, these shots were granted EUA and weren't subject to proper clinical trials, to assess long-term risks. This is especially worrying because vaccines fail trials 59% of the time and take a median of 9 years.

Thus, we should have little tolerance for bad side effects.

33 posted on 10/20/2022 4:26:22 PM PDT by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

Good post.


35 posted on 10/20/2022 4:31:31 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: DoodleBob

@ 33 good comment. Indeed, it is truly vexing that those in authority are not running ‘head-long’ to try to figure out if the covid innoculations are not part of the equation that has led to the statistically significant signals that this started happening in mid 2021.


36 posted on 10/20/2022 4:42:13 PM PDT by week 71
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To: DoodleBob

The extremely terrible thing is that they are coerced/tricked/gulled into taking it, or their parents - which is the same thing. Really, really sad and tragic.

Note: I was a long time in making this post because there was a strange noise; Mr K - not the one on this forum - was pulled away from washing dishes to check a door of the house in case someone was breaking in because that’s what it sounded like. (I checked the other door in case you are wondering.)

Anyway, it was just cats who were in the house rumbling. But that’s why it took me like 20 minutes to post this. Have a great evening! (It’s evening here.)


49 posted on 10/20/2022 6:02:52 PM PDT by Scarlett156 (Is it j-just destiny, d-destiny? Or is it just a game in my mind, Ebola? M-m-m-my, my, my Ebola! )
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To: DoodleBob
Re: Deaths of Athletes per year (Post 33)

The current athletes' deaths are inevitably "died suddenly" from a heart episode or seizures which point toward the Jim Jones Jab.

Compare that to most of the deaths in the prior data sets from 1966 through 2006 were from physical injuries involving head trauma, blunt impact to the chest, or injuries involving severe blood loss.

53 posted on 10/20/2022 6:22:13 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: DoodleBob

You also need to compare vaccined athletes to non-vaccined athletes, and control for intervening causes, such as bee sting allergies, cocaine use, or the introduction of massive amounts of fentanyl into the narcotics and bootlegged pharmaceutical marketplaces. They have to be ruled out in the study group AND the control group. It’s not a conclusion that can be jumped to, whether or not the vax causes sudden deaths of athletes. I wouldn’t be surprised if that turns out to be the ultimate conclusion. At any rate, it’s ironic that Brandon and Kamal-toe’s skepticism prior to the release of the vax was perhaps the one thing that they have gotten right to date. Only now they’re pushing it like pimps, proving that they want to be wrong. It’s what they’re trying for, whether in Afghanistan, the supply line, energy, the economy, or the vax.

As for Ukraine, we may disagree as to what it is they’ve gotten wrong, but we are all in agreement that they have gotten it wrong. I for helping Putin finance his mis-adventure with high energy prices, others for subsidizing or over-subsidizing the Ukrainians’ defense of their homeland, and others for not forcing a negotiated piece in Donbas with Putin the piece grabber (ok. I’m biased; Sudetenland, “Palestine,” etc.). Something is wrong there.


57 posted on 10/21/2022 2:15:13 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Free country? Good morning, Rip. )
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To: DoodleBob; nickcarraway; ransomnote; Jane Long

We can all agree on one thing: That it is in the public interest to as soon as possible confirm or deny the involvement of CoupFlu shots in these deaths.

Yet it’s taking many months to get answers.

And sometimes the question isn’t even asked.

There is no good reason for this when the issue is of absolute importance to public health.

But there’s a very bad reason that explains what were seeing, and not seeing, isn’t there, DB.

And it’s the only one, as more and more evidence piles up, that makes sense.


60 posted on 10/21/2022 2:52:52 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: DoodleBob

Thanks for posting!


73 posted on 10/21/2022 9:42:52 AM PDT by KierkegaardMAN (I never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.)
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