Posted on 10/19/2022 6:29:45 AM PDT by Renkluaf
The price of charging an electric car using a public rapid charger is now more expensive than filling up with diesel according to data gathered by Parkers. The soaring price of wholesale gas and electricity has forced up the cost of charging a typical electric car, with £10 of charge taking you less far than the same amount of diesel.
This rise in EV charging begins to bite just as petrol and diesel prices are finally beginning to fall. Despite the spiralling costs of using public electric car chargers, the long-term consideration of an electric car is still very much on many drivers’ minds.
The RAC says that the average price per kilowatt hour (kWh) of a UK rapid charger is 63.29p, but it can cost a lot more. Osprey announced in August 2022 prices on its rapid chargers to £1 per kilowatt hour. Tesla charges an average of 77p/kWh for non-Tesla drivers (according to Zap-Map), and the second largest rapid network, Gridserve, charges 66p/kWh.
Refilling petrol vs public charging prices The gap between petrol, diesel and electric is closing. Using Parkers’ own Miles Per Pound data gathered from official WLTP testing, we can directly compare how much it costs to fuel your car – by saying how far your money will take you when using public chargers at the RAC’s average cost. Putting £10 in your tank is now working out cheaper than £10’s worth of plugging in at a typical fast or rapid charger.
Audi Q5 (2.0 TFSI petrol) vs E-Tron Petrol takes you 46 miles for £10, whereas electric on a public charger takes you 35 miles BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe (420d) vs i4 Diesel takes you 73 miles for £10, whereas electric on a public charger takes you 44 miles Citroen C4 (110hp diesel) vs e-C4 Diesel takes you 84 miles for £10, whereas electric on a public charger takes you 59 miles Mercedes-Benz GLA (2.0 petrol) vs EQA Petrol takes you 43 miles for £10, whereas electric on a public charger takes you 52 miles Peugeot 208 (110hp diesel) vs e-208 Diesel takes you 89 miles for £10, whereas electric on a public charger takes you 56 miles Vauxhall Mokka (110hp diesel) vs Vauxhall Mokka-e Diesel takes you 80 miles for £10, whereas electric on a public charger takes you 50 miles
https://www.parkers.co.uk/electric-cars/electric-charging-infrastructure-uk/?utm_source=OracleResponsys&utm_medium=email&utm_content=PCP_news&utm_campaign=PCP-E-B-221117-NEWSL-ENG-NEW&email_hash=6cb53b0c2439d15f5923b437211b662d
In fact Parker’s are understating just how expensive running costs are for EVs, because their figures for petrol/diesel include fuel duties, which account for nearly half of the cost.
So, for instance, if you exclude fuel duties the Vauxhall Mokka will take you will take you about 130 miles for your tenner.
As we all know, sooner or later EV drivers will have to pay their share of fuel duties one way or another. Therefore it is fraudulent to ignore these costs in any comparison between EVs and proper cars.
Imagine living in an LA apartment and having to get up at 3am to wait for 3 hours in line to charge your car just enough to get to work and back that day. To charge any more would be selfish due to the long line behind you.
The liberals’ goal is not to force people to drive EVs. Their goal is to force people to move into high density apartments and ride mass transit. Then rich liberals can ride around in their expensive EVs and not have to sit in traffic.
A basic tenant of the “Green Movement” is not having any attached garages.
It should be.
This is one of the more insane ideas from government and the environmentalists.
I don’t think most in charge are stupid, I think this is the deliberate destruction of our economy and our freedom to travel.
I’m never going to live in a US city, as a certain demographic has ruined every single one.
I’d rather live in a tent in the woods; hunting a foraging for food...
I wish we had the conversion for EV usage in the United States. It’s going to get out of wack like UK.
I take my wife’s car to Costco and it takes 60 dollars to fill it. I take my care to the Electrify charger and it costs 17 dollars. I admit that I start at he at almost empty and fill it all the way, and my car start at 18% and only charges to 80%. That 60% is only 18 dollars so 100% would be 30 so I pay half as much for the number of miles.
Example: The claim was made here that an EV battery could be charged in 15 minutes. RME
An observation: EV proponrnts do not value their own usage of time. Life is short.
Now factor out the gas taxes on the gas car (as mentioned in the article), and the range difference between the gas and electric cars.
The old adage…”time is money” also applies. The recent experience of the guy spending 15 hours driving his EV on a 178 mile trip in Wyoming is a good example. Imagine if this guy’s job were in sales. How many customers could he see in a day? Consider an EV delivering crucial medical supplies. Would anyone trust the safety of their life or property if emergency services were dispatched in EVs?
Or the overnight motel you never used before on same route.
Tests so far on EV Cadillac show a range of 300 miles...
BASE cost of EV= $300,000 before dealer add-on, etc.
Cannot even drive from Los Angeles to San Fran or Reno with that range. Barely gets you to Las Vegas.
I’m building a low-income apartment complex (federal tax credit apartments). The plans call for placement of 2 EV charging station.
How many units?
There’s 200+ by me, zero EV charging stations.
It just dawned on me you said low income.
LOL, so there will be zero Tesla vehicles there...
Never EVER let up. Must assume everything that they push is a lie and opposite of the truth.
An EV can't make the trip in similar wall clock time. There will be additional stops for sleep/charging/eating. The addition time costs real money. In my case that would have meant burning Paid Time Off.
They only tell us what they want us to know. The rest they either ignore, hide or lie about.
Very important to understand that. Whatever they’re pushing benefits them.
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