Posted on 10/16/2022 10:32:40 AM PDT by EBH
A Linkedin post shared by Canopy CEO Davis Bell is sparking controversy for shedding light on the growing trend of "overemployment," or secretly working two remote jobs at once.
The post went viral on Friday after Bell divulged that Canopy, a mid-sized software company based in Utah, recently fired two engineers who were secretly working two full-time jobs simultaneously. Overemployment has soared during the pandemic, with some saying it allows them to make up to $600,000 a year during a period of record-inflation and soaring housing costs.
"To me, this isn't some fun new social trend," Bell wrote. "It's a new form of theft and deception, and not something in which an ethical, honest person would participate."
The post prompted backlash from several corners of the internet, including the Reddit community "antiwork," with some users arguing that tech CEOs like Jack Dorsey and Elon Musk are lauded for working at multiple companies at once, while regular workers are punished for it. Others speculated that the engineers may have be working two jobs in order to make ends meet.
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I’m not justifying this behavior but a lot of people have lost respect for big companies. Myself included.
My nephew is an off the charts brilliant computer geek.
For years he refused all promotions so he could work by himself on the graveyard shift in a computer center.
He programmed all tasks so they ran without his intervention (without telling the bosses) and then spent the night sleeping or reading or using his cell phone for personal business.
Is that “theft”?
He was such a productive employee they kept trying to promote him.
It is not his fault that his bosses weren’t smart enough to take full advantage of his skills.
thanks for the smile.
Nope, it’s genius.
Sure. I too have lost respect for my employer, more than you will ever know.
But that doesn’t mean I am going to steal from whatever company I work for. They gave their word to pay me for services agreed on, and I have given my word to provide those services.
If I don’t provide those services, I have no reason to complain about whatever they might do.
I had a boss who used to say to find the laziest guy in the office to figure out how to do something, then let the hardest worker do it.
“Look at some of the posts on this thread. Astonishing.
Some people here think this is perfectly fine, that someone would give their word or sign a contract to work with an employer for 40 hours a week, and then give something less than that.
Or that corporations “deserve” to be screwed because they somehow mistreated their employees.
I am speechless.
On one hand, no moral foundation. On the other hand, people sound like dedicated Marxists.
Right on this very forum. Just wow.”
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I’m shocked as well. When you take a job and agree upon the hours of work each day, then that’s how many hours you should work for THAT employer and that employer alone.
To then use those hours to work for someone else for compensation is stealing from the employer (actually both employers). I can’t believe people do not see that. And then to say companies “deserve it”, just flabbergasts me. If you think a company is that bad, don’t work for them and don’t take their money.
too many people cannot truly even work one full time job without taking time to answer texts or communications with kids spouse, looking up personal things online, social media. the last last few decades it’s just gotten worse and worse.
i thought it was bad in 1990’s when I worked for large shipping company and a highly key position employee who should have been fired repeatedly for falling asleep on job, attendance issues, theft of pencils etc, personal calls on work time (pre cell phones - actual calls to the company taking up a company line needed for other communications) was never fired.
For me, it boils down to the fact that the only thing I can do to remediate a company mistreating ME is to either take it, or find another job.
But for me to steal for someone or something else is a conscious choice I won’t willingly accept. I fully understand that if I am starving or unable to heat my home, I might well steal to survive. But that is not relevant here.
Nose to the grindstone - or tombstone in this case.
“overemployment”??
Is that a new euphemisms for fraud? Which is what it is if you’re secretly working the same hours on two jobs.
No wonder there is so much resistance at going back to the office.
“Is that “theft”?”
It’s not being honest. It’s not making it clear to bosses he had more potential, which they obviously thought since they tried to pormote him but he (nephew) chose to slouch and stay in one position to do personal things on company time.
My understanding is if employee is on the clock they have responsibility to use that time for the company.
I’ll let you answer your question.
It depends on the nature of the job, but lot of people in midlevel cubicle rat world only have two or three hours of real work in a day. In government this is epidemic. These people are one of the core constituencies for work from home. People with brutal commutes I sympathize with. People who are basically drones, I don’t. If government weren’t run as a sheltered workshop for marginal employees, we could cut many agencies quite deeply.
I should acknowledge that I’ve been through the revolving door a couple of times. The diligent and competent federales are worth their weight in gold. They keep innumerable essential functions (that we mostly taken for granted) running smoothly. Then there are the others.
Well more and more, work goes beyond 9 to 5. There is an expectation that emails sent off-hours, get answered within a short period.
When I was still in tech I had the chance to do a lot of interviews for job openings. Was surprised at what applicants thought they could dictate to their potential boss concerning the job. Also found a lot of fraud where a phone interview was demanded, and a "sleeper" did the interview for the applicant for a highly technical job. When "the applicant" showed up the first day, they didn't know how to power on their laptop, much less anything about the technology they were already supposed to have. By 10am they had disappeared, and was found 20 minutes later sleeping in a vacant office they found. That was an interesting an interesting day, as management walked them out the door by midday.
They farm a lot of their work off to india and outsource work all the time. These corps act like they own you and all your hours then cut you off without notice or care. Meanwhile the the top brass gets rewarded for either over working you, cutting your pay or eliminating your role. F the bloated top executives, snotty elites from Ivy League liberal colleges!
One effective tool to minimize this “dual job” type of activity is to require users to have a LinkedIn account.
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