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What are the vaccine attributes influencing COVID-19 vaccine hesitancy among American parents?
Medical Net ^ | October 11, 2022 | Dr. Liji Thomas, MD

Posted on 10/15/2022 9:16:14 PM PDT by DoodleBob

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To: DoodleBob

Of the 1100 children with Covid on the death certificate, I have yet to hear of a single one that lacked a significant co-morbidity.


41 posted on 10/16/2022 3:54:48 AM PDT by jimfree (My 19 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than Joe Biden.)
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To: DoodleBob
possibly due to a lack of trust in the political and medical system.

Possibly?

42 posted on 10/16/2022 3:59:29 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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To: fr_freak

That was very well stated.

Remember, the people in China live with this every day. There is no OFF setting on the brainwashing machine.

It is coming to America.


43 posted on 10/16/2022 5:33:26 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: DoodleBob

https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/


44 posted on 10/16/2022 5:46:13 AM PDT by Pollard (Worm & GMO Free - some call us purebloods)
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To: Pollard

I have a one word answer to this article’s question:
DEATH!
Or, ala Biden-speak, the ONE word could be “heart attack”.


45 posted on 10/16/2022 6:07:44 AM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement! There)
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To: alexander_busek; WMarshal; ransomnote; Jane Long; metmom; Grampa Dave; Tilted Irish Kilt
Thank you. Yes, I'm completely against vaxx mandates. JimRob got the shot and he's not sheeple. If informed people who are compromised choose to take the shot, that's their choice and I support it.

But if people do NOT want the shot, treating them like a war criminal is despicable on moral grounds....but for the empiricists, let's go to the tote board.

Per the FDA in June 2020, the FDA would expect that a COVID-19 vaccine would prevent disease or decrease its severity in at least 50% of people who are vaccinated.

This is where words become REALLY important. In the US, the basis of approval EUA and the only "approved" Vaccine, was for PREVENTION...NOT for decreased severity. Indeed, look at the actual FDA and Pfizer-BioNTech info.

Per the FDA's website,

On August 23, 2021, the FDA approved the first COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty, for the prevention of COVID-19 disease in individuals 16 years of age and older.(emphasis added)

Per the Comernity Insert,

--------------------------- INDICATIONS AND USAGE----------------------------
COMIRNATY is a vaccine indicated for active immunization to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in individuals 16 years of age and older. (1)(emphasis added)

Per the Summary Basis for Regulatory Action, under "Indication"

Active immunization to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in individuals 16 years of age and older. (Emphasis added)

Clearly, the vaccine is for PREVENTION. Nothing else. All of the clinical trials (limited as they were) and statistical confidence intervals were focused on VE with regard to PREVENTION...not hospitalization, not ER visits, not fatalies, and not symptoms. Accordingly, THAT is the basis upon which approval and Efficacy should be based.

So let's examine the time-series of VE for these shots since authorization, keeping in mind the FDA benchmark of 50%. Remember, VE = the percentage reduction in infection rate in the test vs control groups.

Without making this a massive post, I'll concede that published VEs in various studies in 2021 were above 50%. Indeed, the time EUA was granted, the shots had an in-same VE around 90%....who could oppose such a thing?

As an important side note, all of this research is based on statistical analyses of data. They are NOT clinical trials. That is an important distinction, because 1) none of these shots underwent legitimate trials that examined long-term impacts that other approved vaccines underwent and 2) vaccines fail trials 59% of the time and take a median of 9 years. Therefore, we should have VERY LITTLE TOLERANCE for declining VE for these shots.

Then by the summer of 2021, we noticed VE started declining. In and of itself, this isn't too problematic - few things last forever. BUT, the rate of decay in VE didn't get much airtime. For what it's worth,by the end of July I did some modeling and it looked like VE would fall below 50% just 6 months after the second shot and become totally ineffective by 10 months. Further research in August showed VE during Delta falling to 66%.

Ruh roh.

With Omicron, we saw VE being zero in Norway and Denmark and of course the US.

Pleae note, at no point in this post have I declared that these shots have nanotechnology in them, make you glow, have the Mark of the Beast, or are part of some conspiracy. I'm playing by their rules of "science."

Therefore, if VE is now not only below 50% but at zero, and the benchmark was 50%, the EUAs and approvals should be yanked. Even if these elixirs lower symptoms, that's not the basis of approval...rules are there for a reason.

....unless you're in the government, and rules are for the little people. The 50% VE threshold was blown away when assessing shots for CHILDREN.

Finally, boosters prop up VE but decreasingly so. Soon you'll need a boost every week.

Parenthetically, ransomnte posted an intriguing article that posited that "But (VE) is not decreasing at all. Your immune system response is decreasing. You are developing VAIDS, Vaccine Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome." Hmmmm....

THIS is why people refuse the shots.... If we follow their "rules of science" and these shots don't not have VE above 50%, then they absolutely deserve ridicule and revocation.

And yet, these "approved" shots - which have caused familial and societal strife, vective, unrest, unemployment, and brought us to a Constitutional "crisis" where three lawyers on SCOTUS thought it was peachy for OSHA to enact a mandate without congressional approval - remain in effect under an EUA where the BASIS was PREVENTION.

I think Grampa Dave has the answer to

But it’s evident the vaccines don’t work and have deadly risks. Why, if any government cared about the safety of their people, would they force the entire population to ingest a medical product with serious risks?

A: None of this was about our health.

46 posted on 10/16/2022 6:11:10 AM PDT by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob
"Vaccine Hesitancy" is a propaganda term from sick korporate Pfascists.

It's not a vaccine and it's not hesitancy - it's outright refusal to take the Jim Jones Jab.

47 posted on 10/16/2022 6:17:38 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: DoodleBob
Thank you. Yes, I'm completely against vaxx mandates.

And thank you for another substantive and impassioned (if somewhat rambling) contribution!

Could you please also say something about the issue of the Vaxx and alleged reduction of "transmissiveness?"

Specifically: Has there been an instance before in modern history in which a supposed vaccine has been developed which (regardless of the hoped-for prevention of disease in the vaccinated individual) has failed so miserably with respect to preventing transmission?

It seems to me that, in the past, a vaccine's power to reduce transmission was directly proportional to its ability to prevent disease in the first place.

With the Covid vaxxines, however...

Regards,

48 posted on 10/16/2022 6:19:47 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: DoodleBob

I find the excrutiating and perpetual vaccine harrassment nauseating.


49 posted on 10/16/2022 6:51:32 AM PDT by Theophilus (It's fake and defective)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

It would have been worse.

So don’t delay, act now, supplies are running out
Allow if you’re still alive, six to eight years to arrive
And if you follow, there may be a tomorrow
But if the offer is shun, you might as well be walkin’ on the sun


50 posted on 10/16/2022 6:55:14 AM PDT by Theophilus (It's fake and defective)
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To: DoodleBob

Worthless vaccine for an overhyped political disease.

Unvaxed, haven’t been sick.

Most people I know that are vaxed have been sick. And I don’t care about social distancing, masks, shut downs or any of that JUNK.

Wife also not vaxed. Also never got sick. How can that be?

But we did enjoy the empty beach in Destin a while back while folks were scared to death, wearing their idiotic masks...

Had some fool here in FR tell me how it was a bad idea to go to the beach and pretend to be a doctor. After I asked him if it was the heat, salt water, sunlight, sand, fresh (non Recirculating air) or fact that people spread out at the beach that I need to worry about, he suddenly disappeared and wouldn’t reply.

This isn’t science, it’s not good medicine, it’s nothing but modern day psuedo science, snake oil salesmen, and so called leaders that are still willing to burn people at the stake for not fitting in or playing along with their games.

In this case, you had the interests of business (big pharma), politics (election year and grandstanding), buerocracy (NIH, CDC / never let a crisis go to waste), media (24-7 story, tv pundits etc), international institutions (UN, WHO) all have a common interest.

Covid is a case where everyone stood to benefit from this “scaredemic” or “plandemic” and while there is a small degree of truth to it like so many other BS issues today, 90% of it is overhyped junk. There is also a seed of truth, but the rest of their scientific towering monstrosity is all media hype, assumptions, hear say, speculation... Other examples: climate change, ozone hole. Glad now our health care is infected with this.

This was so stupid it was embarrassing, but rather than lower their heads and crawl off stage in shame, the jerks that pushed this idiocy are proud and beating their drum to this day, may it be Pfizer, Bill Gates, Biden, Fauci...

This was Idiocracy but for real!


51 posted on 10/16/2022 7:28:24 AM PDT by Red6
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Infectious Disease ping - Explanation of hesitancy of American parents to vaccinate children for covid-19
Political and social implications

DoodleBob :" Per the CDC, about 1100 children annually under 18 have died with covid on their death certificate...
Unless they're leftists, parents aren't stupid. "

" A new study published in Preventive Medicine reports the results of a survey among parents in this country aimed at identifying the primary risk factors for parental vaccine hesitancy.

"Female parents were more likely to refuse to vaccinate their children, especially if they were Black – possibly due to a lack of trust in the political and medical system.
Those who favored Republican ideology were also six times more likely to refuse than those leaning the other way."

"Among vaccine-willing parents, the two factors that drove the vaccine choice were the associated severe adverse effects and vaccine effectiveness. The most common reasons included fear of long-term health consequences and a perception that the vaccine was too new. The duration of protection offered was also important, while relatively minor factors included the risk of hospitalization among the unvaccinated COVID-19 pediatric patients and local vaccine uptake rates."

(My Comment): The Pfizer and Moderna covid vaccines remain, even today, as experimental biologic injections under "emergency use authorization", as a clinical study
and was rolled out within four and a half months of the initial clinical study by Big Pharma who are indemnified against liability - at no financial risk to their product.
The vaccine is/was a two-fold medical experiment :
The biologic injection, itself, was untested and "experimental"
The means of delivering the vaccine by mRNA is also "experimental"
The long term effects of this injection remain unknown even at this time, but what is known is that the injection alters the human body's immune system,
and we still don't know how long this effect remains in the body.
The Nuremberg Code requires that 'informed consent' be given to the injected, and that there should be voluntary compliance, devoid of any intimidation or coercion.
The WHO/NIH/FDA/CDC/Big Pharma health cabal approved this injection, as an experiment, without regard to human medical concerns, and has hidden and ignored recent adverse reactions.
What's not to like about this injection ?
How about we later find from Pfizer's CEO testimony to the European union, that it wasn't even tested against the covid virus.

52 posted on 10/16/2022 7:51:17 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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“Female parents were more likely to refuse to vaccinate their children, especially if they were Black – possibly due to a lack of trust in the political and medical system.”

Possibly due to Tuskegee.


53 posted on 10/16/2022 8:41:30 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It amazes me how much "exercise" and "extra fries" sound alike.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

“...was rolled out within four and a half months of the initial clinical study by Big Pharma who are indemnified against liability - at no financial risk to their product.”

I’m finding most people don’t even know this. The most effective reason I have found to give people that ask why I haven’t been vaxed is just what you said. I tell them I wouldn’t buy a new car without a warranty. I even like my toasters to have a warranty. I trust products based on their warranty a lot, because that tells how much the company making them trusts the product.

By that time, the asker gets it and is questioning why they got vaxed.


54 posted on 10/16/2022 8:46:15 AM PDT by CottonBall (“Fascism should be called corporatism because it is a merger of state & corporate power" - Mussolini)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

“A new study published in Preventive Medicine reports the results of a survey among parents in this country aimed at identifying the primary risk factors for parental vaccine hesitancy.”

I’m not sure I would trust any of these studies. A liberal friend whose husband is a professor at a local University said that one of his grants was for him to study why there is vaccine hesitancy locally. I asked her if he was going to be polling people. She looked confused and said no. So how else would he get his information? I assume they gave him what they want the outcome to be and he is supposed to provide evidence.


55 posted on 10/16/2022 8:48:17 AM PDT by CottonBall (“Fascism should be called corporatism because it is a merger of state & corporate power" - Mussolini)
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CottonBall :" I’m finding most people don’t even know this.
The most effective reason I have found to give people that ask why I haven’t been vaxed is just what you said."

Add to what I have stated the fact that Pfizer did get a covid vaccine approved which didn't have the indemnification against liability
It received massive press release
What didn't get mentioned is that this particular vaccine wasn't even going to be manufactured for general distribution.
Some folks took the touted vaccine feeling that they were now insured and backed by Pfizer.
It was simply :" Bait,.. and Switch" by Pharma, with Fed govt. approval; anywhere else that would be "Fraud".

56 posted on 10/16/2022 8:58:02 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I didn’t know that, what despicable liars!


57 posted on 10/16/2022 9:00:55 AM PDT by CottonBall (“Fascism should be called corporatism because it is a merger of state & corporate power" - Mussolini)
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58 posted on 10/16/2022 9:14:28 AM PDT by bitt (<IMG SRC=' 'width=50%>)
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To: MayflowerMadam

And you don’t have to be black to learn from Tuskegee and other episodes of human experimentation by the government.


59 posted on 10/16/2022 9:51:58 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: bitt

Oh, just that the vaxxes kill and maim and disable countless people, plus they don’t provide any protection against covid.

Other than that...?


60 posted on 10/16/2022 12:39:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Never worry about anything. Worry never solved any problem or moved any stone.)
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