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Putin Has 'Lost Control' as Infighting Breaks Out Among Russia's Elite
Newsweek ^ | 10/6/2022 | ISABEL VAN BRUGEN

Posted on 10/06/2022 9:02:04 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

ideos have emerged on social media that appeared to show infighting among Russia's elite, with mobilized Russians allegedly complaining about accommodation conditions before being sent to fight in Ukraine.

On Wednesday, the pro-Russian Telegram channel Rybar published a video that appeared to show Russian soldiers standing in front of a passenger train. The clip has been geolocated to Russia's Belgorod region near the Ukraine border.

"We are now in the Belgorod region. There are about 500 of us. Material support, monetary allowance...Absolutely nothing!" the cameraman states, panning the video to his fellow soldiers. The majority have their face covered with masks.

The man filming the video says that the men, conscripted as part of Russian President Vladimir Putin's September 21 partial mobilization decree, don't know where they are being deployed.

"There is absolutely zero preparation," he says, while another man in the video adds: "We eat what we buy for ourselves."

Analyzing the clip, journalists have suggested that the video could be staged by Yevgeny Prigozhin, founder of the Russian mercenary outfit, the Wagner Group, over his dissatisfaction with how the Ukraine war is being handled.

Journalist Mark Krutov of Radio Liberty noted that some men appear to be wearing badges that bear the Wagner Group symbol.

Before Krutov geolocated the clip, he tweeted: "wherever it's filmed it starts to smell like a staged story now a little bit for me."

"The video was posted on and being reposted by pro-Wagner channels, which matches Prigozhin's 'Fire Shojgu' narrative...Also some Wagner patches are visible on it. Nearly all 'poor mobiks' (mobilized men) on the video wear balaclavas," Krutov wrote.

"(I think patches are just a kind of Prigozhin's 'Easter egg' here). The guy also makes a weird claim they've all (he says 500 people) got COVID on that train," he added.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


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To: PGR88

“These themes rise, then disappear.

For example - for a few weeks we had constant “evidence” of “Putin dying” - Putin is bloated, Putin’s legs are shaking, etc...”

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Yes, and its posted 99% of time by the same small sleeper cell of people.


21 posted on 10/06/2022 10:28:12 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: dfwgator

Don’t make fun of that poor kid gator

Imagine living with convulsions all the time literally

Joy Division was a monumental band and the poor kid killed him self night before leaving terrified of going to America to tour it really is a tragedy I know I’m not picking on you


22 posted on 10/06/2022 10:28:41 AM PDT by wardaddy (Sound and Fury Republic now home to more than a few globalists who really love the mainstream media )
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To: wardaddy

I didn’t mean to pick on him, I was referencing the song, but I understand what you’re saying.


23 posted on 10/06/2022 10:30:35 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Salohcin

“you are still avoiding the question about the source of the video.”
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Who cares how the Russians treat their soldiers, that’s not going to change the fact that the Biden administration has started WWIII.


24 posted on 10/06/2022 10:31:52 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo

Experts Believe Russia Low On Soldiers After Putin Spotted Trying To Teach A Polar Bear How To Drive A Tank!

MOSCOW — Military experts believe the Russian war effort may be in trouble after Vladimir Putin was seen attempting to teach polar bears how to drive tanks.

“No, no you dumb bear! You move turret, not tank!” Putin was heard shouting. “Now bear, you reach down and - did you just eat the gearshift? Bad bear!”

A military debacle from the outset, Russia’s invasion has gone from bad to worse as Ukraine’s counter-offensive has pushed the depleted Russian army backwards. “We got off to a bad start when our tanks ran out of gas twelve hours into the war,” said Russian soldier Fyodor Petrov. “How does a nation that just sells gas forget to pack gas? That is what Americans call irony, no? But now it is getting worse. Half our soldiers die from bombs, and then Putin shoots the ones that survive because he’s mad about how many already died from bombs. We are - how do you say - screwed?”

Having killed most of his remaining officers, Putin has been forced to resort to unorthodox means to fill the ranks. “I open jail cells, send prisoners to war - all dead. I invite nice Chechen terrorists to come join us - all dead too,” said a forlorn Putin. “With everyone fleeing the draft, now I have to go to the zoo and see what I can get. The mongoose is not too bad on the machine gun, actually.”

At publishing time, a frustrated Mr. Putin decided to just launch some nukes, but then realized he already had the people who knew how to launch the nukes all killed.

https://babylonbee.com/news/experts-believe-russia-losing-war-after-putin-spotted-trying-to-teach-a-polar-bear-how-to-drive-a-tank


25 posted on 10/06/2022 10:36:28 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Anyone, who can make you believe in absurdities, can make you commit atrocities!!" ~ (Voltaire)!, )
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To: BenLurkin

Looks like towed D-30 122mm short range artillery in the video.


26 posted on 10/06/2022 10:40:37 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: BenLurkin

This war is about to ratchet up a few notches…


27 posted on 10/06/2022 10:43:55 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Allegra

“Which only encourages me to keep on exposing them.”

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Absolutely.


28 posted on 10/06/2022 10:45:13 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: marcusmaximus

Conscript criminals - with English translation:
The conscripts mention Russian Criminal Code Article 222 dealing with illegal weapon transfer or ownership.

Since the gun or gun parts they got are not legally written into their military documents they are basically forced to commit a crime according to Russian law.

Which lets them be arrested later on.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1577746900257759232


29 posted on 10/06/2022 10:46:07 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Grampa Dave

I love the Bee. Thanks for the post.


30 posted on 10/06/2022 10:47:18 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo

That seems to be an admission that the video is not a DoD information op. Thanks.


31 posted on 10/06/2022 10:58:36 AM PDT by Salohcin
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To: jacknhoo

I sure do feel sometimes like professional gaslighting is going on here.
Just checking that someone has been a member for a long time is pretty meaningless in this context.


32 posted on 10/06/2022 11:04:27 AM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: marcusmaximus

Self inflicted disaster time in the Kremlin. They are blowing themselves up. This will help Ukies win. Doom on Kremlin scum.


33 posted on 10/06/2022 11:21:30 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: marcusmaximus

oooff...


34 posted on 10/06/2022 11:22:51 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: marcusmaximus

Putin at 70: isolated, irrational and fearing for his health
There seems little for the president to celebrate on Friday as Russia’s elite dares to ask: is he losing control?

UK Times Archived-— https://archive.ph/MYAPd

There was a time when Vladimir Putin would have celebrated his birthday by heading into the wilderness of the Siberian taiga with an old comrade, Sergei Shoigu, for a spot of fishing. Tomorrow, however, as he turns 70, there seems little chance of him palling up with his loyal defence minister. Not while the Russian army collapses in Ukraine. Not as hardliners grow ever more furious at the army’s failures on the front line and call for Shoigu’s scalp.
After spending almost three years in near-total isolation at his residences in Moscow and Sochi, Putin, who is divorced, with an unknown number of children from one former wife and at least two lovers, is more likely to see in his 71st year with his nose in a book, perhaps by Ivan Ilyin, a 20th-century ultra-nationalist Russian philosopher who once described fascism as a “healthy, necessary and inevitable phenomenon”.

Of late he appears to have been rereading Ilyin as he obsesses over Ukraine, the West and his own legacy. Ilyin, who believed that the Russian people should “unconditionally love and unconditionally trust” their leader, was cited by Putin during a speech to announce the annexation of four regions of Ukraine. Russia’s “spirit is my spirit”, Putin said. “Its fate is my fate, its suffering is my sorrow, its flourishing is my joy.”

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35 posted on 10/06/2022 11:25:49 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: marcusmaximus
" the video could be staged by Yevgeny Prigozhin, founder of the Russian mercenary outfit, the Wagner Group"

Russian Nazi mercenary outfit, the Wagner Group, that is.

36 posted on 10/06/2022 11:32:15 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: jacknhoo

” sleeper cell Nazis”

Is this a new conspiracy theory of yours?

If the Nazis have sleeper cells in America, the sleepers must all be about 95 year old by now :D


37 posted on 10/06/2022 11:35:03 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Allegra

And they get apoplectic when we point this out. They even try bullying, by slinging silly insults from their keyboards to keep people from pointing out their tactics.

Which only encourages me to keep on exposing them.
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The only thing you are exposing is that you are a legend in your own mind.`


38 posted on 10/06/2022 11:40:53 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Allegra

“They even try bullying, by slinging silly insults from their keyboards to keep people from pointing out their tactics.”

Give us an example or two.


39 posted on 10/06/2022 11:42:36 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
Give us an example or two.

No. You issued this as an order and didn’t ask nicely. Look it up yourself. You know good and well it’s happening regularly.

Learn to ask nicely instead of giving commands. Nobody here takes orders from you.

40 posted on 10/06/2022 11:50:28 AM PDT by Allegra
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