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GM's slow EV strategy. They are going 100% EV......
Bloomberg == Archive | September 20, 2022

Posted on 10/04/2022 4:40:32 AM PDT by dennisw

https://archive.ph/CKCAA#selection-3665.0-3665.18


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: automotive; electric; gm
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To: 1Old Pro

Those are cool. I was just sticking to American examples.

I agree that a simple car with no frills and a stick shift that is less expensive could be a hit. New vehicles are ridiculously expensive, like the Jeep Grand Wagoneer that starts at $88,000. For that kind of money it better be able to time travel, IMHO.


41 posted on 10/04/2022 6:19:42 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: snoringbear

“Buy a pre-sold state ignition vehicle and refresh it.”

Diesel Rabbit. No electricity required, burns just about anything.


42 posted on 10/04/2022 6:19:56 AM PDT by beef (Say NO to the WOE (War On Energy))
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To: caddie
Wish GM or Ford would make a small, gasoline, normally-aspirated rugged economy car with no electronics... something EMP- proof.

Not allowed by law.

43 posted on 10/04/2022 6:24:51 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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To: dennisw

In an ideal world,, this would be the time for a start up company to produce an inexpensive no frills gasoline powered vehicle.


44 posted on 10/04/2022 6:27:19 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. - Psalm 33:12)
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To: joshua c

“...the plan is to ban gas cars...”

I don’t think we’ll ever get to that point. Yet, the gov’t mandated shots and a few other things, in the past. Didn’t work out very well for them. I’m hoping that the climate change scam will fall apart before then.


45 posted on 10/04/2022 6:28:31 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: joshua c
agree except it will be govt mandated the big auto companies would not be moving to EVs without expecting a govt mandate the plan is to ban gas cars

Remember when we had a government of the people, by the people and for the people? I used to like that government.
46 posted on 10/04/2022 6:34:52 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: dennisw
Like ye old pinto or vega but fuel injected. EMP proofed!

What would control your fuel injection--a mechanical link or an electronic one?

While I appreciate the sentiment, I think the old mechanical injectors would be grossly inefficient, based on today's standards. You'd want to go electronic, and that would eventually mean bringing a chip into it.

47 posted on 10/04/2022 6:54:58 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: dennisw

GM = Dead company walking


48 posted on 10/04/2022 6:56:13 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Toyota is watching their competition self destruct on the alter of woke greeness.


49 posted on 10/04/2022 6:57:31 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Lou L

EMP is a joke. Do you know the damage an EMP does to ICE engine that is not running? Nothing. Do you know the damage to an ICE engine that is running? It shuts it off. How to fix it? Restart it. LOL.


50 posted on 10/04/2022 7:00:27 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: jz638

“I will guarantee though, that there is no urban electrical grid in America ready to handle massive numbers of 400V charging stations.”

This is an area where there isn’t really a problem. Our grid is designed to provide enough power on a Tuesday at 7pm in July. At all other times there is a lot of spare capacity.

If folk charge at night no new infrastructure is needed.

Even better all the batteries can help stabilize the grid. You could buy $10 worth of electricity at 3am and then sell it for $20 at peak hours.


51 posted on 10/04/2022 7:02:01 AM PDT by Renfrew
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To: joshua c

It’s meant to limit the mobility of the “little people of flyover country”. It has nothing to do with “climate change”.


52 posted on 10/04/2022 7:10:22 AM PDT by packagingguy
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To: Lou L

“While I appreciate the sentiment, I think the old mechanical injectors would be grossly inefficient, based on today’s standards. You’d want to go electronic, and that would eventually mean bringing a chip into it.”

Electronic fuel injection of course! This is super limited electronics on board. So the onboard “computer box” will be tiny” When selling this automobile, leave space for an EMP shield that you can buy (option) with the car or in the aftermarket.

Mandated electronics would be ABS braking. But brakes will work if EMP knocks those chips out.


53 posted on 10/04/2022 7:12:59 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

And when it fails GM will get massive tax dollars.


54 posted on 10/04/2022 7:13:13 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: caddie

They did.
It was called the Model A.


55 posted on 10/04/2022 7:13:58 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: beef

“Diesel Rabbit. No electricity required, burns just about anything.”

I Worked in an auto parts store and drove one of those 20 times or and loved it. I liked the flat shapes body too. Bring it back but with electronic fuel injection.

For years the EPA is trying to kill diesel fuel with over the top purity/low sulfur regulations. This raises the price of trucking too, and everything you buy.....The natural price of diesel is at least one dollar below gasoline. Because it is so much easier for a refinery to manufacture.


56 posted on 10/04/2022 7:23:20 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: caddie

“Wish GM or Ford would make a small, gasoline, normally-aspirated rugged economy car with no electronics”

Me too. Remember the Suzuki Samuri? It was a small jeep-like vehicle that was originally for 3rd world countries and had a 35 hp engine over there. It was brought to America and fitted with a big engine which made it top heavy. It rolled over so much that it was eventually pulled from the American market.

I once saw a crowd gathered in a shopping center parking lot. Turned out they were looking at a Suzuki Samuri that was flipped over 180 degrees. Don’t know how that happened in a parking lot. Driver wasn’t hurt.


57 posted on 10/04/2022 7:25:35 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: caddie

While I would be interested in an older, pre-electronics vehicle just for a post-EMP strike...understand one thing. You could only use it for a few days after an EMP strike. After that, the vehicle would make you a target.

In a post-strike world, the crazies/criminals would come out of the woodwork. Law enforcement would be limited or nil. Anyone with a running vehicle would automatically be on the bad guy’s radar. When the flag goes up, immediately use the vehicle to collect stranded family members scattered around town or the extended area. After that, park the vehicle. You’ll wind up dead if you continue to drive it.


58 posted on 10/04/2022 7:32:58 AM PDT by moovova
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To: dennisw
Something simple please ...

And only for $16K


59 posted on 10/04/2022 7:34:38 AM PDT by CapnJack ( )
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To: Rlsau1

“While one would expect GM (Government Motors) to head down this road to ruin, Ford’s move in the same direction is baffling.”

IMHO there is tremendous pressure from the FedGov on auto-makers to move to EVs. Political pressure (FBI has dirty pictures), financial pressure (cancellation of subsidies), gawd only knows what else. While the folks in the boardrooms are usually arrogant and narcissistic, they are not usually stupid. IMHO they are going along with the FedGov mandates to keep the FedGov at bay, slow-walking EV development while hoping that the next election will eliminate the pressure. Then they can abandon the EV projects, take a huge financial write-off, and get back to business as usual.


60 posted on 10/04/2022 7:35:49 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (Slo-Joe and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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