Posted on 10/03/2022 5:11:58 AM PDT by jacknhoo
For eight years, NATO has supported puppet rulers in Ukraine, funded attacks in the Donbass, repeatedly violated the Minsk agreements, supported the ban on speaking Russian in the Luhansk and Donetsk republics, and helped to destroy the democratic opposition and free media in Ukraine. The result was a one-party government, essentially owned and funded by the United States, and run by American operatives.
And no halftones and subtleties.
Yet, somehow, the United States managed to convince the population of its country and other Western countries that Russia is a “bad boy”, that it is out of control and must be stopped.
Despite all of the above, Russia remained steadfast and constantly sought to control the situation. However, she firmly said that it would be a “red line” if Ukraine became a nuclear power, becoming a direct threat to Moscow. This could not be allowed.
National Interest: Putin gave the Americans one last chanceRussia made it clear to the United States that de-escalation is possible only on its terms
Surely this was a sober warning to any sane country that the only thing that should not happen is Ukraine becoming a nuclear power. Eventually, once this Pandora’s box is opened, the last barrier to a possible nuclear war will be overcome.
For eight years, the West has egged Russia on again and again, but it has not taken the bait. Then, in February 2022, at the annual Munich Security Conference, the President of Ukraine announced his intention to make Ukraine a nuclear country.
Five days later, Russia entered Ukraine. The American propaganda arm immediately stepped into action, and for months, even as Ukraine consistently lost the war, at every turn the Western media resumed their claims that a war was unfolding; that Russia hesitates, and the heroes of Ukraine fight off the attacks of the Big Bear.
But all of the above is old news. Why, at this stage, should we return to this?
Well, the enduring significance of this is that NATO (or the US – they’re practically interchangeable at this point) have been reckless from the perspective of a nuclear conflict from the start.
Are they crazy? Or are they so stupid that they think they have some kind of “advantage” in a nuclear conflict? Or do they see it as a game of “single dominance” in which the only important issue is which side has more bragging rights?
We can only speculate as to the answer to this predicament. But putting that aside, we have to ask ourselves: a) what is the probability that the West will be so reckless that it actually pushes the button, and b) what will the result of this look like?
In the United States called on the White House to recognize the referendums in the DNR with one condition
What could partial mobilization mean for millions of Russians?
Zelensky said it would become impossible after the referendums
As for the first question, given that it is now becoming increasingly clear that the West is distorting the course of the war: Azov’s trained forces are used up, and replacements cannot be prepared quickly enough to take on experienced Russian troops. Washington will have to come up with another plan … and it must be something dramatic.
So far, the only card they haven’t played is the Nuclear Weapons card.
They began to claim that the Russians were either shelling the Zaporizhzhya nuclear plant, which they held for some time, or causing these shelling and explosions. In fact, they are accused of blowing themselves up at the facility that they have long captured.
At the moment, not many listeners believe this explanation. So what’s left in their toolbox?
I have long felt that, ultimately, what the West could do would rely on the old favorite technique of attacking under a false flag. Create a narrative and video footage of a Russian attack on, say, Kyiv with a small nuclear warhead. Then announce that the warhead has been fired, killing hundreds of thousands. Then unleash a pre-arranged information blitz and invoke Article 5 justifying nuclear war.
It just might reverse the “tide of sympathy.” But it would also open a door that could not be closed again.
When the weak men are instead of the security forces, then there is a problem with the “clever men” “If you leave 50% of the employees in office, then the second half of them in the amount of 2.5 million people will demolish any army.” If a!
And as for the second question, “What would a nuclear war look like?” There are many studies out there, but the most revealing one I’m familiar with was from Princeton University.
The study begins with an accidental single launch in Eastern Europe and shows the size and number of nuclear warheads, as well as launch patterns.
It shows the trajectories and furthermore shows the diameters representing the degree of destruction of each missile.
Smaller nuclear weapons would cover all of Europe, leaving very little untouched there. This would then be replaced by larger transatlantic nuclear weapons, the most advanced Sarmat missiles. The Sarmat has the ability to elude missile defense systems. It travels at five times the speed of sound, weighs over 200 tons, and each has multiple separable warheads.
There is nothing like it in the West.
So what would be the result?
Well, every major US city would have multiple ICBMs targeted, each one big enough to destroy it. Most of the US would be littered with other ICBMs. The US would have been destroyed within hours. It is estimated that 90 million people would have been killed initially.
Those who were at the epicenter would evaporate. Those who were on the periphery of the explosion could have escaped if they got to the concrete shelter very quickly. They would then have to remain “sealed” in it for several weeks, if not longer, until most of the fallout had settled. It would become a gamble on the question of when it would be safe to leave the shelter.
Israel secretly sneaks through Poland to go to war with Russia. Moscow’s prompt response to this perfidy of Tel Aviv will very likely be shown to the Jewish state in Syria
The US northern border would be destroyed, taking with it Canadian border cities like Vancouver and Toronto. The southern border with Mexico would also disappear.
The next will be the movement of radioactive fallout.
As the video shows, there would be no hope for those who live in the immediate vicinity of the target, but as you can see, there are places outside the US that are not the target at all. Those places that do not have a strategic advantage will not be selected as targets. So, if you were in, say, Jamaica, you wouldn’t be affected, but just as importantly, the Caribbean weather system – the trade winds – would blow any rainfall away from you in the north, as would the Gulf Stream.
Better yet, the world is divided at the equator by two weather systems that don’t mix. Precipitation in the north is unlikely to spread south.
If you are in South America, there are very few likely targets. It is not known whether, say, Rio de Janeiro or Buenos Aires will become targets, but if not, then South America may be the best place in the Western Hemisphere.
In any case, things would be worse in Europe and the Middle East than in North America.
Finally, there is the issue of nuclear winter. No one can know if it will last for months or years and whether it will be local or global.
Nuclear war is not preordained, but the West is dangerously saber-rattling as if it is invincible and only others can be destroyed. This is completely false.
We cannot be sure that a nuclear war will be launched, but if it does, it will be quick. You will not have time to develop an escape plan . You should already be in a place that you consider as safe as possible.
* The Ukrainian battalion “Azov” was recognized as a terrorist organization by the decision of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation of 08/02/2022 . Activities in Russia are prohibited
Posted by Jeff Thomas Jeff Thomas is a British entrepreneur and freelance journalist.
Translation by Sergei Dukhanov.
Published with the permission of the publisher
IMHO we pulled too many punches and greatly overestimated the strength of the Soviet Union.
There isn't going to be any world war because neither NATO nor an independent Ukraine are fundamental threats to Russia's existence and they know it: they lived with an independent Ukraine for more than 20 years.
Russian/Soviet chest beating is a historical tradition simply to see how much they can get away with. It didn't work during the Cold War and I see even less reason to give in now. If you want negotiations, here's a starter: Russia withdraws to its Feb 23 lines.
I’m perfectly capable of recognizing that the junta in DC is attempting to install a one-party corporate-fascist state while also recognizing that Putin is trying to do the same in Ukraine using direct force and that a victory for him would have disastrous consequences for the US.
Agree. It seems some conservatives have forgotten how to multi task.
MAGA Republicans should not ignore the massive support Putin’s Russia gets from Soros HQ EU and Biden partnering with Putin to nuke up Iran. Putinist Russia is no friend of the US. Never has been. Never will be.
That is for sure! There are 350 active silos in that region. Those are very hard targets, so they would be hit by big warheads. I’m not sure how this works given the “use them or lose them” doctrine. There would be a twenty minute warning, which is plenty of time to launch. It is not clear to me that they would be targeted. The Russians have very extensive sheltering facilities for their population. Our leaders have provided this only for themselves.
just make sure you get 20 miles out of town preferably into a valley of a hilly region
We won the cold war yet Russia is threatening nuclear war. If it happens then we DIDNT win anything. Do you see nuclear war is an all round loser ? Or not?
Oh you don’t see the impending economic and energy collapse due to sanctions? They lived with Ukraine inon their border so long as we stayed out . The moment America interfered in 2014 Russia refused to live with it. We set the stage for war. W then used sanctions that will provoke war. We then almost certainly took out pipelines that will start WW III.
Even if not, do you get that energy and economic collapse is coming? The Ukraine issue is BS. They could be rounded up and slaughtered and the coming energy collapse is STILL more important.
Do you get what acting in the West’s and not Ukraine’s interest mean? Ukraine could vanish from the earth and it still would be ok so long as we survive. This is survival. Do you get that?
I take it you have never been to that region of the country. There are no hills. It is as flat as the middle of a dinner plate. Twenty miles away from one silo places to twenty miles closer to the next one.
You weren't around when this site was infiltrated by the Stormfronters.....
Oh I bet that was interesting...
“It seems some conservatives have forgotten how to multi task.”
It seems some conservatives have forgotten how to set priorities.
we live about 20 miles from our local AFB as the crow flies....
no kidding the Sunday paper had a long article about how a recession can be good for you....
these people are insane.
sounds like a great place to own some property 20 miles out of town with an underground bunker
No, it isn't. There isn't going to be any economic collapse. A severe downturn, but that's it. Average Americans will be considerably poorer, but we won't have mass starvation or even another Great Depression. We still produce most of the oil we need, and a huge food surplus. One of the primary health problems for Americans is obesity.
Russia and all of its production could evaporate from the face of the planet and it would be the equivalent of Italy disappearing.
This downturn is being exacerbated by the Russia sanctions, but not caused by them. The primary causes of the downturn are the lockdowns inflicted by governments in COVID panic and the subsequent tidal waves of liquidity which must now be mopped up. Because our government is bought and paid for, most of that mopping up will take place by removing money from your wallet and mine.
Another important factor is the "green" strangulation of the economy. I hope now that people are getting a taste of the "green" economy, they'll finally spit it back out.
I've lived through a number of wars, economic downturns and nuclear bloviating by the Soviet Union and Russia. I don't see any reason to think this time will be much different.
There are people buying those old silos and doing just that. It seems kind of neat to me; but, I’ve always been a bit of a cave man.
It is so nice to see that someone else understands.
“There are people buying those old silos and doing just that.”
And what if the Russians are using a 30 year old target lists?
A point to ponder.
You’re joking right? You know that the globe is so short of fertilizer that mass starvation is coming ? You know that The Administration is putting in place measures to massively cut food production, economic production and energy usage? That nothing like this has ever been done in the history of mankind ?
This is DELIBERATE starvation and economic collapse, nothing like your previous experience. With all due respect, you have a serious failure of imagination, unable to see that the future could be different from what you have experienced in the past. Are you seriously justifying food shortages by saying obesity is a problem? This is mind boggling. People are overweight so let’s starve them. Can you hear yourself? This isn’t even reasoning it’s just plain sticking your fingers in your ears and refusing to listen to reason.
It’s not a question of Russia’s GDP. It’s a question of physical reality - without Russian fertilizer the planet cannot produce enough food to feed 8 billion folks. It’s a question of biology not GDP. The vaunted American food surplus could disappear in a single growing season.
Now back to the Ukraine issue. Regardless of whether we have economic armageddon or not - bottom line, Ukraine is not an American interest. It’s not a Westen interest. It’s of no interest to anyone except themselves and Russia. America needs to keep its nose out and deal with internal issues that will destroy the country in a generation if not solved.
Nuclear submarines “THEY GOT BUILT UNDER ME” is an absolute lie: https://www.vice.com/en/article/aepy7b/trump-wants-more-nuclear-attack-subs-but-theres-no-one-to-build-them
Trump did indeed want to build more, but our only 2 sub building shipyards were already fully committed to other projects. The article went on to explain that we have 52 nuclear attack subs, 12 more than all other navies combined (in 2017). President Trump sensibly went on to explore other options. Russia has engaged in producing a variety of nuclear weapons from smaller to large bombs as well as tactical ones. So apparently Trump moved forward with this in mind and can take full credit for the following:
This article goes into detail about making our nuclear capability be comparable to that of other countries. The nuclear weapon launched is smaller than the Hiroshima bomb.
Here is one important concern of those concerned about this idea: Specific to the W76-2, members of the nonproliferation community have raised concerns that having a low-yield and high-yield warhead launched on the same submarine-launched missile creates a situation where an adversary doesn’t know which system is being used and therefore reacts as if the larger warhead has been launched. I wonder if this concern has been addressed since the Feb. 2020 initial launch. It could have been neglected given the immediate outbreak of the Covid emergency.
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