Posted on 10/02/2022 10:17:48 AM PDT by qaz123
Congratulations. You’ve just purchased one of the most expensive high-performance electric trucks on the market.
You’ve gone green and you’ve done it in style with the GMC Hummer, starting at $86,645. That’s right — the Hummer’s now a green vehicle! What was once the biggest villain in the left’s war on fossil fuels is now the poster child for responsible off-roading....
The video begins with standard 120V charging — or Level 1 charging, to use official jargon. This is the standard current your home already offers.
“Right now it’s about 6 p.m. on Tuesday,” the man says. “And it says it will be full by Saturday at 10:55 [p.m.], which is four-plus days of charging. Wow.”
However, our intrepid Hummer owner had one of those — the JuiceBox, a 240v charger, installed in his garage.
How much difference did that make? Not as much as you might think. “Now it says it will be done tomorrow by 6:30 [p.m.],” the video narrator says. “So about 24 hours of charging from four percent to 100 percent.”.......
Car and Driver went to an Electrify America charging station, where it cost over $100 to “fill up” the Hummer at 43 cents per kilowatt hour....
(Excerpt) Read more at westernjournal.com ...
No. He could have bought a different kind of EV that would charge fine on wall, or even the 240. He made his choice.
It reminds me of a guy I knew in the late 80s. He bought a car with a catalytic converter. This was back when they were new. And then he’d complain incessantly about how the car ran like crap on low grade gas. He paid extra for a car with special needs, and complained about the special needs.
This guy paid extra for a truck with a high voltage high storage engine, which has special needs. And now he’s complaining about the special needs. He made his choice. And if he had half a brain in his head he could have found out the special needs and handle it. But he didn’t.
He made his bed. Time to lay in it.
Have to ask, and if you could give me the layman’s answer if you know...
ICE is about 30% efficient, or so I’ve been told. Due to CAFE standards and the feds requiring more mileage, car companies have been reducing the weight using different metals. The bad part is, cars are just as fast, if not faster, but lighter and more dangerous.
So.....how do ICEs increase efficiency to say, 40% and if so, how does that effect mileage and power?
Or someone who didn’t know how much it would cost to upgrade his electric and/or research any code issues...
Hmmmm....
You’re right. He’s an effing idiot.
Jeez Louise....I would say, 100% of the time, when an article about EVs pops on this site, the army of EV do nothing but make excuses and talk about “if, one day, in the future, should have/could have” blah blah blah.
The cars suck and we’re being forced to help people buy them and charge them.
At least the idiots charging at 120V may still have electric bills that are less than their mortgage since they’ll be driving less with the 4 day charge cycle.
If I was going on a trip without my wife I'll take our ICE pickup. But since my wife likes to stop every 200 miles and walk around 10 minutes, our EV is conducive to road trips with her.
Jeez Louise some guys just don’t understand actions have consequences.
If he’d bought an SUV that got 14 MPG with an 80 gallon tank and was complaining about how much he has to spend every 2 weeks filling it up would you say that was on the SUV or him for not thinking through what his purchase meant given his daily commute and current gas prices?
Nobody forced him to buy an EV with an 800V engine with a 329 mile range. Really all the information was there for him. If he’d bothered to look. According to the info gotten on 1 quick search if he’d gotten a 440 charger he could charge it in an hour. Now his 120 and 220 charge times are about twice what Car and Driver say, but still, that would be 2 hour.
He paid extra for this vehicle, and didn’t do the work to understand what he was buying. It’s all on him.
'zactly this.
The problems that plagued EV's during the late 1800's and into the 1900's are the same today. And, with proper batteries, EV's then could hit 100 miles per charge. Today, those hitting 200 miles per charge are considered acceptable by the EVbois. That's a bit more than a 1 mile gain per year since Detroit Electric offered its last EV in 1939. What a quantum leap of engineering!
Now, InstiGator will post some lame comment that gas stations weren't around when the first Model T rolled off the assembly line as some warped proof how EV's are great despite the lack of sufficient charging stations and a grid not suitable for the planned millions of the things.
My EV gives me 250 miles with 80% charged. 200-250 miles is about how far my wife likes to drive before stopping to walk around 10-15 minutes anyway. At most fast road chargers, 10-15 minutes is how much it takes to charge my EV back to 80%.
If my wife is not with me on long trips I drive my ICE pickup so I can go much further than 250 miles between stops.
At home it takes us 8 hours to charge up to 80% from nothing. (I usually charge it slower than that because we usually don't bring it home almost dead, and I have a reason to have a low load on my electrical panels if I can help it.)
Now, InstiGator will post some lame comment ...... ha ha ha ha ha ha
Never said it wasn’t.
But, even if he did have an 80 gallon tank, it’d take him about 4 minutes to fill it, rather than 24hrs, and he’s back on the road. And probably paying about same amount.
“1 quick search if he’d gotten a 440 charger he could charge it in an hour. Now his 120 and 220 charge times are about twice what Car and Driver say, but still, that would be 2 hour.” and if the Queen had ballz, she’d be the King.
Nothing but “should have, could have, would have”. If he had purchased the 440 charger, who knows what that costs to buy and install(who cares), he might be able to charge is X-Wing Fighter or Tie Fighter and go anywhere he wants. Maybe make the leap to hyperspace.
I watched the video, and the guy is an idiot. We don’t know what amperage he’s got on the charging circuit, and he’s charging to 100%, which you normally only do on rare occasion while on a road trip.
Yeah, but that’s the trade off. And everybody buying an EV knows that. They take longer to charge than gas engines take to fill.
Absolutely. Because “should have, could have, would have” is the RIGHT answer. If you’re dropping 80 grand on a car and you’re not willing to do even 30 seconds of research it took me to find out expected charge times, that’s on you. I’ve NEVER bought a car without at least an hour of research. I want to know the reliability. I want to know if it has a timing chain or belt. I want to know about parts availability. I want to know real world expected mileage. I want to know what the hell I’m buying . And I’ve never bought a car that cost more that 20 grand (I’m cheap, I also have a 4 mile commute). If I was gonna drop $80 grand on a car I would walk into that dealership knowing more about it than the salesman. A lot more.
Be a smart consumer. Do your freaking research.
“ It reminds me of a guy I knew in the late 80s. He bought a car with a catalytic converter. This was back when they were new”
Not even close. I owned a 75 Olds Cutlass. Unleaded fuel only because of the catalytic converter.
Ok....so, you buy an ICE vehicle and they tell you, as you walk out the door,
“Sir, the manufacturer advises that you NOT fill the tank all the way. You’ll damage the gas tank and the engine and reduce the amount of time when you have to buy a new engine and gas tank.”
Got it.
If I was going on a trip without my wife I'll take our ICE pickup. But since my wife likes to stop every 200 miles and walk around 10 minutes, our EV is conducive to road trips with her.
Steve Martin voice, "Well excuuuuuse Meeee!"
I'd rather put the gas pump in the tank, at an affordable price, giving oil riggers work. Going inside the store when nature is calling, afterwards buying a Slim Jim and I am on my way all in 10 minutes.
What is so "evil" about that?
“Right now it’s about 6 p.m. on Tuesday,” the man says. “And it says it will be full by Saturday at 10:55 [p.m.], which is four-plus days of charging. Wow.”
= = =
OK
You are going to need 2 or 3 hummers.
Drive 1, and charge the others, so they are ready when #1 poops out.
“ And then he’d complain incessantly about how the car ran like crap on low grade gas”
Required octane levels have absolutely nothing to do with catalytic converters
But if you run *leaded* gas through them they will clog and the car can catch fire
If I was gonna drop $80 grand on a car I would walk into that dealership knowing more about it than the salesman. A lot more. Of course.
What residential applications are there for for a 440 Charger? I was under the impression that something like that would be in shops/commercial applications. If so, then would a residential wiring package be able to safely handle that amount of electricity?
And if your answer is anything close to: Well he would have to do this, that and the other installed to ensure that he could do that and more or less rewire his entire panel...then please don’t answer.
I’m betting that if he has to completely rewire or add something on the more, commercial side, then he’ll have to contact his power company to see if it’ll meet code and then his insurance company to see if he’ll still have homeowners insurance.
I wanted a Generlink on my house and was told...NOPE.
This is not a feature unique to electric vehicles—it’s the same for your cellphone, laptop, cordless tools, etc. Charging to 100%, or charging at the wrong speed, can reduce the lifespan of any of these Li-ion batteries. This is why cellphones, EVs, and laptops all have charge controllers of varying levels of sophistication.
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