Posted on 09/30/2022 12:46:26 AM PDT by qaz123
In a recent op-ed, the Washington Post outlines how Tesla’s battery issues and fires may not just be due to poor design and manufacturing but a side effect of electric vehicles relying on lithium-ion batteries.
The Washington Post reports in an op-ed titled “Tesla’s Big Batteries Aren’t the Fire Problem. Lithium Is,” that Americans should be questionubg whether lithium-ion powerpacks should be used for applications such as electric vehicles. The piece argues that the science of lithium-ion batteries make them inherently dangerous.
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Just drive the freeways of the hot southern states and be aware of the big burn marks on the lane shoulders, they are almost all from ICE engines🤔🤔
Sand is definitely a method in general use for Metal Fires. FD’s have 500 gal pumper trucks and a way of rapidly dispensing it. Sand might be too heavy and require a separate towing vehicle. I guess somebody would have to calculate the trade-offs.
Or from over the road tractor trailer trailer brakes that overheat and catch fire.
Insurance companies will decide on this problem as they accumulate more experience.
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In a sane world, yes.
In a world with mandated sjw on company boards and ESG banking,,,
insurance companies will cash out and close doors, go broke, or make coverage only affordable to the ultra wealthy.
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Re: Fuel cells
Not sure we are talking about the same thing.
I am referring to a fuel cell device that generates electricity from the chemical reaction between hydrogen gas and oxygen.
All USA manned space flight vehicles use fuel cells. Putting them in cars is a relatively new Green idea.
Agree except for putting them in cars is a relatively new Green idea.
It’s been around from the 60’s it’s all about safety.
Once the first EV gets going, there is no way to put out the fire short of dumping that car in the ocean
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But that doesn’t put them out.
Water intrusion ignites those things. The water immersion just isolates the radiant heat from igniting other things near them, like thermite it still burns in water. Lots of steam to dilute the lethal,,, lethal,, nature of the smoke they generate. The lock down order in calif. wasn’t meant to prevent anything other than death by inhalation of toxic smoke while driving to escape the fire danger. Most bad spreading forest fires here cause evacuation orders, but this fire caused a shelter in place order.
A no win situation I admit.
Since the 1970s, I’ve forded many rivers in Colorado in my Jeep with no issue.
If you are trapped in an EV and the battery goes critical we (FD) will try to get you out of the vehicle but ultimately, you are going to burn to death in there because in reality, there is nothing we can do to save you. All we are going to do is make it look like we tried and failed.
Choose wisely.
Batteries, gastanks and bombs. They all store huge potential energy in small volumes. Somehow we got a decent handle on handling bombs and gasoline. Batteries seem to be a bit trickier.
I have been in the business since Reagan was President and the closest thing I have seen to a vehicle “blowing up” was a gasoline tanker rolled over and split open.
I have seen cars with the rear end squashed by the duals of a trailer and the occupants climb out of the twisted wreckage and dust themselves off and refuse transport to the ER.
Cars don’t explode in real life like they do in Hollywood.
I’m aware. Actually had to respond to a few in my years.
Let me know when you one just spontaneously erupts in fire, while parked in a garage.
See post #64. The man got himself and his child out immediately.
For the record, if you fill the tank to the last drop, drive 1/4 mile tops and park in the garage, you can set the garage on fire when the fuel warms, expands, leaks out, and the water heater lights it all off. Even more fun is the tank being plastic and a sloped to the street driveway.
“The man got himself and his child out immediately.”
Self rescue will certainly save lives. I have cut quite a few folks out of vehicles over the years who couldn’t do that.
Yes and if the Queen has b*lls, she’d be the King
Energy resents being stored, period, end of story.
What makes fossil fuels so miraculous is that nature already spent hundreds of thousands of years and untold amounts of energy converting energy broadcast by the sun into an energy-dense and stable form. Except mankind isn’t held liable for all that overhead, the only cost we have to pay to get at those fuels is in extracting them from the earth and doing whatever processing is necessary to tailor their properties to our needs.
California to ban the purchase of ICE cars by 2035. California will need to double its production of electricity, but power companies can’t even afford to cut trees along the cable lines or do preventative maintenance and brush clearing to prevent rolling blackouts.
What could go wrong? How are the illegals California sponsors going to get to their worksites? Are they going to buy $70,000 vehicles?
But I wholeheartedly agree, qaz123, electric cars are the bestest in the world!
What about salted roads in the frigid Northeast or Midwest?
Last time I checked, they don’t show publicity shots of Teslas driving in the snow.
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