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self ^ | Sept. 21, 2022 | self

Posted on 09/21/2022 11:21:13 AM PDT by citizen

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To: citizen

I never even considered it.. BUT.

MOST households have 2 cars.. And assuming both work. Will essentially be needing to charge at the same time (e.g. getting home from work).

I have to assume that ONE charger is going to be A LOT of power and current. Two? at the same time. Would that require some serious wiring upgrades?


21 posted on 09/21/2022 11:32:30 AM PDT by uranium penguin
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To: citizen

You need to find out what type of distribution system your neighborhood has regarding upgrades.

I would think most are on a 12 or 13kV system. It’ll take a good amount of usage to suck that all up even if everyone has EVs in their garages.

If you’re trying to head off problems you need to consider that the grid will go down - permanently. Yes those are the plans and the only installations that will have power are military bases, hospitals, and “rich” communities that lick the hands that feed them.

There’s a dude I know who has gone off the grid 100% with his home with solar panels and his generator. He drives an EV. I’m betting he’ll survive a few weeks max in a SHTF situation.


22 posted on 09/21/2022 11:32:37 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: RoadieFan

Are insurance companies weighing in on this? Premiums should rise.


23 posted on 09/21/2022 11:33:03 AM PDT by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: citizen

Make that an Android S10...duh


24 posted on 09/21/2022 11:33:05 AM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: citizen

As you drive, note how many homes have three or four vehicles parked in their driveway And most have some sort of “toy” out of view....four wheelers, boats, motorcycles, etc.

Those highway vehicles may be greater in number than the number who drive, so they don’t operate every day. But batteries must be kept charged when not in use or the computers will drain them.

So the questions raised by the OP are not only legit, they are going to be a real deal breaker unless the government intends to restrict the number of vehicles per household.

The electrical requirements will otherwise require a total rebuild from the power plant to your front door...including the high voltage transmission lines and their towers.


25 posted on 09/21/2022 11:33:23 AM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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To: citizen

Nope.

L


26 posted on 09/21/2022 11:33:23 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Big Red Badger

“Get a 10 speed Bike”

showing your age there my friend.....im pretty sure they don’t make “10” speed bikes anymore. Lol!


27 posted on 09/21/2022 11:34:09 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: Lurker

Costs vary depending on where you live, which station you purchase, and whether it is hardwired to your home or portable. The national average cost range is between $1,000 and $2,500, with most people paying around $1,200 for a 240-volt outlet, charger, and wall-mounted system. The low cost for this project is $300 for a replacement Level 1 charger for use with an existing 120-volt outlet. The project’s high cost is $4,500 for a Level 2 charger designed for 2 cars with a 240-volt outlet, pedestal mount, and circuit panel upgrade.

https://www.fixr.com/costs/home-electric-vehicle-charging-station


28 posted on 09/21/2022 11:34:32 AM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: central_va

I’ve no idea. But I know more than one person who’s paid roughly that for the charger and install.

L


29 posted on 09/21/2022 11:34:43 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: central_va

Union electricians? State permitting/inspections?


30 posted on 09/21/2022 11:34:47 AM PDT by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: citizen

My solution is a ‘97 4.0 Jeep.


31 posted on 09/21/2022 11:35:06 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: citizen

Most people don’t realize charging your EV and running your air conditioner(s), washing machine will extend your charge time significantly unless you upgrade your home electrical service. That’s in addition to whatever charging equipment you use. I suspect home electrical fires will become a constant problem.


32 posted on 09/21/2022 11:35:40 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (Let's go Brandon)
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To: allendale

transistors = transformers.

Very basic design, that 50’s tech probably cannot be improved very much although I am sure someone feels a need to add a “Chip” or several.


33 posted on 09/21/2022 11:35:47 AM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Free thinking is now a radical concept, I will not be assimilated by PC or EV groupthink!)
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To: V_TWIN

the new work environment.
Boss, I can’t come in for the next couple of days. I’m charging my car. and, oh, BTW, I need a 20% raise to pay my electric bill


34 posted on 09/21/2022 11:36:11 AM PDT by dirtymac ( Now Is The Time For All Good Men To ComeTo The Aid Of Their Country! NOWhx) )
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To: citizen

Thankfully I only have a 30-40 mile a day traveling need. The best thing I ever did was buy a 10yr old plugin hybrid for under $10k, drive it all day as needed and plug it into a standard 15amp 120v plug overnite at a cost of about $1.50 a day. Compared to driving my pickup 35 miles a day using a couple gallons of gas for about $7.00 at todays prices. So far i’ve come out ahead, but that may change as murphy’s law is always in the wings.


35 posted on 09/21/2022 11:36:50 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: citizen

That is a great observation.


36 posted on 09/21/2022 11:37:05 AM PDT by old-ager
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To: citizen

It depends.

1)How many miles do you expect to have to refill in how many hours?

2)How big is the electrical service to your home? How much of the electrical service capacity is already being used by existing loads?

3)How many miles per kWh does your EV get?

For example, if you only drive 30-40 miles a day, with an EV that gets 4 miles per kWh, a single 20 amp 240V circuit would recharge your vehicle in 4 hours or less. And you could run at least 3 of these circuits on a typical 200 amp service.

On the other hand, if you drive 200 miles and expect to fully recharge your vehicle in 4 hours, you would need at least 60 amp 240V charging circuit.

You probably couldn’t put more than one, maybe 2, of these 60-amp circuits on a typical 200 amp service.

(But how many people really drive 200 miles, get home, and need the vehicle fully charged in 4 hours?)


37 posted on 09/21/2022 11:37:35 AM PDT by brianl703
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To: citizen

Consider this scenario:

A mandatory evacuation hits a gulf state or states and everybody with a battery car bugs out at approximately the same time.

Best case scenario there is the batteries were fully charged....at 300 miles out everybody is looking for a way to charge up.

If your fortunate enough to have been able to afford a tesla your gonna need at least 30 minutes to charge up IF you can find a tesla supercharger.....you and all your other tesla owner friends.

In the meantime a cat III+ hurricane is bearing down.

Since I do live on the Southeast coast, if I have to evacuate I suspect I’ll be seeing EVs scattered along the highway like so many discarded soda cans.

Not to mention it doesn’t take a full blown hurricane to knock out ELECTRICITY in a wide spread area.

I’m sure there will be no panic.

And there’s not gonna be a bunch of coal miners around to help push either.


38 posted on 09/21/2022 11:38:06 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: allendale

transformers


39 posted on 09/21/2022 11:38:30 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: dynoman

“30 amp 220v will charge a model Y at 25 miles per hour.

Which is like filling a car with gas at one gallon per hour.”

Which for the average driver is topping off every night while sleeping and not having to mess with gas stations.


40 posted on 09/21/2022 11:38:46 AM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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