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To: Steve Van Doorn

BZZZT.

Nothing infiltrationy about transubstantiation.

Try Thomas Aquinas. There’s a technical definition which derives from terms explained by Aristotle.


1,286 posted on 09/23/2022 12:57:25 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Let’s not get into a communion debate regarding the mechanism.

Trans-substantiation does not alter the Verba “Take...this IS my...”.
Nor what is received.
Lutherans use the term con-substantiation.
So what?
It is still body-bread, wine-blood as received by the penitent.

Now, iffen y’all want to argue that the term “Eucharist” intends the Sacrament of the Altar...I’m your huckleberry.


1,287 posted on 09/23/2022 1:05:49 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is NOT a religion of any sort. It is a violent and tyrannical system of ruling others.)
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To: grey_whiskers
transubstantiation where the bread and the wine actually being christ flesh and blood. Though that didn't come about until Pope Innocent III in April 1213 and formulation in the teaching of Thomas Aquinas.

Is that better?
Thanks.
1,288 posted on 09/23/2022 1:08:56 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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