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To: grey_whiskers
transubstantiation where the bread and the wine actually being christ flesh and blood. Though that didn't come about until Pope Innocent III in April 1213 and formulation in the teaching of Thomas Aquinas.

Is that better?
Thanks.
1,288 posted on 09/23/2022 1:08:56 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

The sticking point is what the words “transubstantiation” “actually being” mean.

Materialistic Westerners who believe in SCIENCE!™ have the mistaken impression that the words mean “magically transformed, to be chemically identical to”.

But, speaking of science, just as science uses everyday words but gives them a specific meaning within the context of scientific disciple (e.g. the word “force” means a scalar quantity mass multiplied by a vector quantity, acceleration, instead of a verb meaning “to compel”), the words “transubstantiation” are applied within the context of Aristotelean “accidents” and “substances” (these also being words specially defined within a disciple to mean something other than the vernacular).


1,297 posted on 09/23/2022 1:38:08 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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