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Tens of millions now able to apply for certificate of Sephardi Jewish ancestry
Jerusalem Post ^ | SEPTEMBER 18, 2022 | ZVIKA KLEIN

Posted on 09/18/2022 3:27:35 PM PDT by jjotto

Recent research has demonstrated that as many as 200 million people in the Americas and Europe have Jewish ancestry who were forcibly converted.

…The process for certification begins with filling out a relatively short questionnaire about a person’s background, clues about their Jewish heritage, like customs, family trees or items with a Jewish connection, and their reasons for believing they have Sephardi ancestry. This information will then be assessed by a team of experts and researchers who will determine if the applicant has enough information to be awarded the certificate...

…While the certificate will have no legal status, it is something that a growing number of those with Jewish ancestry have suggested would be an enormous sense of pride and identity for them...

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: History; Religion
KEYWORDS: jews; judaism; sefardim; spain
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To: metmom

I suppose protestant propaganda about the Inquisition is still wide spread.

The actual records of the inquisition exist, its you who are repeating a lie.


41 posted on 09/18/2022 4:52:05 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: cowboyusa

Oh I’m sorry is the info at this website incorrect? If so then please point out a more accurate source

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-voting-record-in-u-s-presidential-elections


42 posted on 09/18/2022 4:52:09 PM PDT by papercliprippa
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To: Bayard
You said:

If you believe there was a systematic action to force conversions to Catholicism in Spain, you would be stating propaganda.

I am saying you had to convert, or you would be killed or forced on a boat out of the country.

How is “Be killed, leave the country, or convert” not a systemic action to force conversions? And why is Spain now apologizing for having done that to my extended family?

43 posted on 09/18/2022 4:52:23 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: papercliprippa

“Actually THEY hate YOU, goy“

Dude, it’s not “they” .
It’s “us”.

Leave the us versus them crap to BLM and the Democrats.
And We don’t need Jew hating posts on FR. Conservatives are friends of Jews.
The left and their pro PLO views aren’t friends of Jews.

My Savior was a Jewish carpenter.


44 posted on 09/18/2022 4:52:42 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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To: Bayard; metmom

If my family is being told BY SPAIN that we can become citizens, because our ancestors were driven out, I’d say you don’t have an accurate understanding of anything that happened with Spain, at that time.


45 posted on 09/18/2022 4:54:08 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

The actual records of the inquisition exist, most scholars regard the history of the inquisition to be a black legend started by protestant propagandists and political leaders in Europe who used it as a bludgeon against Spain.


46 posted on 09/18/2022 4:54:11 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“Conservatives are friends of Jews.”

The Jews who overwhelmingly vote for Democrats?


47 posted on 09/18/2022 4:54:58 PM PDT by papercliprippa
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To: papercliprippa

Voting in American elections is private.   Neither you, nor the writer of that article, knows who anybody else voted for.   Period.

48 posted on 09/18/2022 4:55:16 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: ConservativeMind

Which is not about forced conversions.

Context.


49 posted on 09/18/2022 4:55:17 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Bayard
Those scholars apparently weren't directly affected and don't know the gravity of their stupidness.

This happened and there are plenty of records of it in the New World Latin countries, even if Catholics destroyed or misplaced Spanish records.

50 posted on 09/18/2022 4:57:15 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Songcraft

Uh oh, here comes the reality check!!!

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/religious-tradition/jewish/party-affiliation/


51 posted on 09/18/2022 4:58:29 PM PDT by papercliprippa
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To: Bayard

Again, the family was forced to convert or else be killed or put in exile.

They chose life in the New World.

All of that was part of the actual, real Spanish Inquisition.

And Spain agrees, while you say Spain is wrong to admit such a thing.


52 posted on 09/18/2022 4:59:33 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind; Bayard

“This happened and there are plenty of records of it in the New World Latin countries, even if Catholics destroyed or misplaced Spanish records.”

Oh, so now Catholics destroyed or misplaced Catholic or Spanish records when it was actually Catholics who established all of the universities and archives that housed records there?

You literally make no sense.


53 posted on 09/18/2022 5:00:59 PM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: papercliprippa

A Pew survey is your standard of truth?   The real truth is, that when you register to vote, and when you vote, you do not give your religion, and you do not give your ethic origin.   Nobody knows that information about any voter.

54 posted on 09/18/2022 5:04:21 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Songcraft

So you are saying that we have no way of knowing what party the majority of black people vote for? LOLOLOL


55 posted on 09/18/2022 5:07:10 PM PDT by papercliprippa
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To: ConservativeMind

Under Spanish Law Converso we’re forbidden from going to the New World. That is ridiculous in scale.

In 13-1600’s Travel to the New world was also far more costly than other countries.

They went to other parts of Europe, not the New World.


56 posted on 09/18/2022 5:08:52 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: ConservativeMind; Bayard

“And Spain agrees, while you say Spain is wrong to admit such a thing.”

No, Spain doesn’t really agree. See for yourself: https://www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/losangeles/es/Comunicacion/Noticias/Documents/BillGrantingSpanishCitizenship%20(2).pdf

The issue was the CROWN forcing Jews out of Spain, not the Spanish Inquisition.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-welcoming-sephardic-jews-spain-rejects-thousands-of-citizenship-requests/

And now the Spanish government is backing out: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/24/world/europe/spain-jews-citizenship-reparations.html

But you would believe the virtue signaling Spanish socialists wouldn’t you?


57 posted on 09/18/2022 5:12:39 PM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: jjotto

Tens of millions, and “This information will then be assessed by a team of experts and researchers who will determine if the applicant has enough information to be awarded the certificate.”

How long will that take? A couple hundred years?


58 posted on 09/18/2022 5:14:09 PM PDT by simpson96
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To: Bayard

Prove it.


59 posted on 09/18/2022 5:17:09 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: Bayard; ConservativeMind
The actual records of the inquisition exist, most scholars regard the history of the inquisition to be a black legend started by protestant propagandists and political leaders in Europe who used it as a bludgeon against Spain.

Which scholars?

Catholic ones?

Give us an unbiased source.

60 posted on 09/18/2022 5:18:56 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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