Posted on 09/17/2022 7:44:51 PM PDT by dynachrome
In the clip, Beck says:
“I have been a supporter of the Article V Convention of States. I have been a pretty big supporter, a vocal supporter. I am reversing that today because after some real thought and prayer, we are not the people to open up this sacred document. We are not the people. That was a God inspired document that was divinely written. You can read that from I don’t know how many founders. The very hand of God was involved. Benjamin Franklin even said that. The very hand of God was involved in writing that document. Do you believe that we could send that kind of delegate today? Someone who, when they got to an impasse, somebody like Ben Franklin would say, let’s pause and go to church and pray. They did not politic. They prayed. I am not for opening up that Constitution any more because we are not that people any more. When we are that people, I will be for it again. When we have demonstrated our humility and our obedience to God, and I am afraid it is going to take a massive beat down of our country to get to that place, then I will be for it again. Some day we will be humble enough, we will recognize God, some day we will not be an enemy to God, we will not be so arrogant. When we are those people, I will support the Convention of States. But I withdraw my support, and I am sorry to say that. It is because of the fact that this Constitution is wholly inadequate for anyone other than a religious and moral people. We are not those people and we should not stain this document.
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Just had an comment pulled. Am moving to Russia due to religious and moral beliefs. They uphold them. What other white Christian nation does so? No LBGT or what ever it is. Be blessed!
I am reversing that today because after some real thought and prayer, we are not the people to open up this sacred document. We are not the people. …Exactly whom were you praying to, Glenny? And how is invoking Article V “opening” the Constitution?
We just went throught 2.5 years of Covid and only a handful of Elected or Media republicans have questioned the narrative and most of those looke like controlled opposition.
We are being bought off. I’m sure he wants to see if/When the Republicans take over, if things will change.
Even Ron Johnson, who is one of the few questioning the Covid Narrative, said he would vote to Codify gay marriage.
Republicans - We can’t trust them right now. You get one shot. After that They’ll say - We tried that, it didn’t work.
You just summed up everything Beck said, in one, very simple sentence.
I think that’s the point.
Just look at the so-called, Red States, and look at some of the Governors…Hutchison, Kemp, Noem, Ducey…and Republican legislatures that are too scared to ban Mail In Voting and Drop Boxes. People who are more concerned with their donors and re-election, than doing what’s right and actually representing their constituents.
Glenn Beck is an idiot.
I’m sure the Marxists would love to see us go as much as we would love to see them go. And they actually believe that Republicans/Conservatives wouldn’t survive without them.
The issue there is, the Marxists are moving, en masse, to the states that should be seceding.
While most of Tennessee is as RED as it gets, Nashville-Chattanooga-Knoxville, are pretty darn Blue
Georgia is no different and circling the drain even faster as the current crop are doing everything they can to help liberals flood the state.
But I would love a legitimate secession movement.
A description of the Articles of Confederation from Wikipedia:
Establishes the name of the confederation with these words: “The title of this confederacy shall be ‘The United States of America.’”
Asserts the sovereignty of each state, except for the specific powers delegated to the confederation government: “Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated.”
Declares the purpose of the confederation: “The said States hereby severally enter into a firm league of friendship with each other, for their common defense, the security of their liberties, and their mutual and general welfare, binding themselves to assist each other, against all force offered to, or attacks made upon them, or any of them, on account of religion, sovereignty, trade, or any other pretense whatever.”
Elaborates upon the intent “to secure and perpetuate mutual friendship and intercourse among the people of the different States in this union,” and to establish equal treatment and freedom of movement for the free inhabitants of each state to pass unhindered between the states, excluding “paupers, vagabonds, and fugitives from justice.” All these people are entitled to equal rights established by the state into which they travel. If a crime is committed in one state and the perpetrator flees to another state, he will be extradited to and tried in the state in which the crime was committed.
Allocates one vote in the Congress of the Confederation (the “United States in Congress Assembled”) to each state, which is entitled to a delegation of between two and seven members. Members of Congress are to be appointed by state legislatures. No congressman may serve more than three out of any six years.
Only the central government may declare war, or conduct foreign political or commercial relations. No state or official may accept foreign gifts or titles, and granting any title of nobility is forbidden to all. No states may form any sub-national groups. No state may tax or interfere with treaty stipulations already proposed. No state may wage war without permission of Congress, unless invaded or under imminent attack on the frontier; no state may maintain a peacetime standing army or navy, unless infested by pirates, but every State is required to keep ready, a well-trained, disciplined, and equipped militia.
Whenever an army is raised for common defense, the state legislatures shall assign military ranks of colonel and below.
Expenditures by the United States of America will be paid with funds raised by state legislatures, and apportioned to the states in proportion to the real property values of each.
Powers and functions of the United States in Congress Assembled.
Grants to the United States in Congress assembled the sole and exclusive right and power to determine peace and war;
to exchange ambassadors;
to enter into treaties and alliances, with some provisos;
to establish rules for deciding all cases of captures or prizes on land or water;
to grant letters of marque and reprisal (documents authorizing privateers) in times of peace;
to appoint courts for the trial of pirates and crimes committed on the high seas;
to establish courts for appeals in all cases of captures, but no member of Congress may be appointed a judge;
to set weights and measures (including coins),
and for Congress to serve as a final court for disputes between states. The court will be composed of jointly appointed commissioners or Congress shall appoint them. Each commissioner is bound by oath to be impartial. The court’s decision is final.
Congress shall regulate the post offices; appoint officers in the military; and regulate the armed forces.
The United States in Congress assembled may appoint a president who shall not serve longer than one year per three-year term of the Congress.
Congress may request requisitions (demands for payments or supplies) from the states in proportion with their population, or take credit.
Congress may not declare war, enter into treaties and alliances, appropriate money, or appoint a commander in chief without nine states assenting.
Congress shall keep a journal of proceedings and adjourn for periods not to exceed six months.
When Congress is in recess, any of the powers of Congress may be executed by “The committee of the states, or any nine of them”, except for those powers of Congress which require nine states in Congress to execute.
If Canada [referring to the British Province of Quebec] accedes to this confederation, it will be admitted. No other colony could be admitted without the consent of nine states.
Affirms that the Confederation will honor all bills of credit incurred, monies borrowed, and debts contracted by Congress before the existence of the Articles.
Declares that the Articles shall be perpetual, and may be altered only with the approval of Congress and the ratification of all the state legislatures.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_Confederation
The Wikipedia webpage also describes the problems and weakness that created a demand for a new Constitution.
Glenn Beck is a Dick.
Screw him, if he is for it then what ever it is, I am against it.
Beck seems to have missed that the Constitution itself sets out the conditions of an Article V convention...
If anything, they should rescind laws, not make more of them.
They should impeach civil servants in the judiciary and executive branch who are corrupt and who do not enforce existing laws. They should drastically cut spending and eliminate whole departments of the government. They should end illegal, undeclared wars. They should stop funding the UN and other bad treaties.
So yes, I'm with Beck. We should not be altering our Constitution when our problem is lack of enforcement of existing, good laws.
If our existing laws had been enforced, Trump would be President, Biden would be in prison or executed, Covid would have never happened, our borders would be secure, we would have no 20 million or more lawless illegal aliens roaming in our country and preying on our citizens, there would have been no undeclared wars, no trillions spent on them, no thousands of war dead. No 9/11, no hordes of muslim terrorists living among us, no ruined currency. And on and on and on.
“’....That we will neither import nor purchase any Slave imported after the first day of December next; after which time we will wholly discontinue the Slave Trade, and will neither be concerned in it ourselves, nor will we hire our vessels, nor sell our Commodities or Manufactures to those who are concerned in it....’”
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Continental_Association
“The Continental Association (also known as Articles of Association or simply Association), was a compact made by the American colonies to impose economic sanctions against Great Britain. The stated goal of these sanctions was to pressure a repeal of numerous laws of parliament. The Association was drafted by the First Continental Congress and adopted on October 20, 1774.”
If not us, Glen, then who?
If not now, Glen, then when?
Get off your high horse. You don’t own the high ground on this one, dumbass...
The blue cities inside the red states will cannibalize themselves with the failure of any services, especially from the Central Government. A self-correcting problem.
And for whoever is left that think they will go out and scavenge the suburbs or rural areas; well...you know...
That was my opinion way back when it first came to my attention 10 or 15 years ago.
And if the states choose to ignore the proposed amendment, then the Article V convention that produced it was arguably a waste of time.
Next, consider that ALL the states can effectively "secede" from the unconstitutionally big federal government with a constitutional amendment that is limited to repealing the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popular vote for federal senators) Amendments (16&17A), relatively little or ideally no discussion required imo.
Repealing 16&17A will put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that the very corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification Congress cannot reasonably justify under its constitutional, Article I, Section 8-limited powers.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824
In fact, the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, had clarified that the delegates to the Constitutional Convention had left the care of the people uniquely to the states, not the feds.
”Simply this, that the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Constitution, is in the States and not in the federal government [emphases added]. I have sought to effect no change in that respect in the Constitution of the country.” —John Bingham, Congressional. Globe. 1866, page 1292 (see top half of third column)
Once 16&17A are gone, unconstitutional federal taxes permanently stopped, each state will ultimately find a tsunami of new revenues (imo) that can be used to increase teacher salaries, also salaries of police and fire departments for starters.
Let's also include new state funding for infrastructure maintenance in that list. Undoubtedly many other state social spending programs as well to replace former unconstitutional federal social spending programs.
Additionally, no more forced compliance with Democratic politically correct and unconstitutional federal gender-related civil rights protections in order for school kids to eat likewise unconstitutional federal lunches paid for with stolen state revenues for example.
In fact, Justice Louis Brandeis had seemingly reflected on Bingham's words (above) when Brandeis volunteered his "laboratories of democracy" metaphor to emphasize the unique power of the states to serve the people, ultimately depending on the kind of state social spending programs that the legal majority citizen voters of a given state want.
"[...] a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country." —Justice Louis Brandeis, Laboratories of Democracy.
Corrections, insights welcome.
The unintended consequences are never known until it is too late to stop them.
I do and have always agreed with keeping the US Constitution untouched.
Ions ago I was once told to remember that once the great document is opened up to change, whether for “good or ill”, the paws of the ill have equal power to scratch their will upon it.
Like the Holy Bible, the Constitution can not be replaced, nor anything altered in it. It’s principles still apply, even to a post-Christian nation, forever.
Mr. Beck did well to speak, as a faithful pilgrim Christian should.
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