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'Game-changing' new battery for electric cars charges in 3 minutes and lasts for 20 YEARS - more than twice as long as current EV batteries
Daily Mail ^ | Published: 21:24 EDT, 15 September 2022 | Updated: 21:46 EDT, 15 September 2022 | Jonathan Chadwick

Posted on 09/15/2022 9:24:36 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

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To: Nifster
So it’ll run a Toni’s truck?

Did you mean Tonka truck? Years ago I sold plastics molding equipment to Tonka. They developed a new resin that was amazingly tough. But they never used it. Reason: It failed one of Tonka's primary product tests, if you pissed on it, it would melt.

161 posted on 09/16/2022 8:33:02 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: Nifster
So it’ll run a Toni’s truck?

Did you mean Tonka truck? Years ago I sold plastics molding equipment to Tonka. They developed a new resin that was amazingly tough. But they never used it. Reason: It failed one of Tonka's primary product tests, if you pissed on it, it would melt.

162 posted on 09/16/2022 8:33:48 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: lewislynn
48 v 5,000 a Battery banks connected with zip cord from table lamps?

I couldn't find a representative picture of the laminated aluminum bus structure via Google. The bus bars are nominally a cross section 20 inches by 15 inches and as long as necessary. The plates employed to create the laminated structure are 1/2 inch thick and bolted into the laminated configuration.

163 posted on 09/16/2022 8:40:07 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: eartick
The CO has a room full of rectifiers powered by the commercial grid to keep the batteries charged. Most offices have a standby diesel generator to cover loss of commercial mains with a nominal 3 day fuel supply.
164 posted on 09/16/2022 8:42:49 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Wilhelm Tell
I left PacBell in Nov 1991. My days as a Toll Equipment Engineer spanned from May 1980 to May 1983. At that point I moved to software development/support. My current employment is primarily software development. I did a lot more component level hardware design from 2001 to 2008 in addition to writing the firmware, data comm, DSP, database and web interfaces.

Suffice to say, the CO hardware as it was when I switched tasking has changed a lot.

165 posted on 09/16/2022 8:48:45 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Zhang Fei

The real problem is the lithium itself.

It cannot meet the mandated demands for EVs, and China has control of more lithium - in and out of China - than anyone else. The government mandates for EVs will make prices for EV batteries go up, no matter how good they are. The government responses will be to just keep increasing the subsidies and tax credits for EVS.


166 posted on 09/16/2022 8:55:19 AM PDT by Wuli (uires )
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To: Myrddin
None of that changes the wire sizes I'm seeing connected to the batteries.

In my limited electrical experience wire sizes are determined by amps, not volts...AC or DC.

The wires I see aren't even sufficient for grounds.

BTW, what are all the yellow packets under the batteries for? Dripping acid?

167 posted on 09/16/2022 9:07:50 AM PDT by lewislynn (Trump accomplished more in one term than any other President in your lifetime.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Last 20 years like the LEDs I keep having to replace. So thankful.


168 posted on 09/16/2022 9:37:36 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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To: libh8er

Okay. It was confusing to me.


169 posted on 09/16/2022 10:06:16 AM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: ConservativeMind

You are more than welcome.


170 posted on 09/16/2022 10:08:00 AM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: lewislynn
Those battery strings are modern day examples, but MUCH smaller than the types in the central offices where I did my work in the early 80s. I suspect the bags under the batteries are present to neutralize dripping acid. Wire sizes to individual batteries only have to carry the current that battery can produce, not what a whole shelf of batteries can source. The common bus bar must be able to carry the current sourced by the collective shelf of batteries.
171 posted on 09/16/2022 11:18:33 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Nachoman

Rubber band.🙄


172 posted on 09/16/2022 11:33:59 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: Hootowl99

So,did the tripping of the plant cause the damage or was it the fire that did it?🤔


173 posted on 09/16/2022 11:49:03 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: BiteYourSelf
Good question…

Fire caused the damage to the cogen power plant. It started as a fault in the electrical wiring then rapidly traveled through cable trays to engulf the power plant. Zero to full blaze in about 15 minutes. Very early in that 15 minutes is when the trip to grid power occurred. If electric was totally lost to the production units, they still would have crashed down via automatic systems that did not require external power. Control rooms also have battery power for lights and controls for more controlled crash.

If the wind had been blowing a different direction and pushed a combustible gas release into the fire instead of away, it would have caused a catastrophic vapor cloud explosion.

While electric power to the facility flipped to grid immediately, steam supply to production units immediately ceased and pressure rapidly dropped. 20+ production units tripped into crash shutdown over a few minutes, some due to loss of steam directly. Others shutdown automatically or by hitting the proverbial red button due to loss of their feed from a networked unit upstream or no place to send their product downstream. In other words, they lost their feed or a place to send their product. Numerous gas clouds, huge flares popping off. Emergency horns blaring their alert codes, i.e. gas release point source continuous blast, evacuation 3 short blasts and all clear 3 long blasts.

My exact location was in an isolated corner of the complex. Our two evacuation routes were blocked as one was in the path of gas releases and the second passed next to the fire. Since we were not in immediate risk, our instruction was to shelter in place. The control room was on a second floor level and had an unobstructed view through the main flare field then to the power plant fire about 1/4 to 1/3 mile away. It was several hours, about 4 IIRC, before my area was cleared to evacuate.

For all the excitement of the day, there were zero injuries. Every single person in the complex had a short duration emergency respirator clipped to their belt. Control rooms and offices stocked with full face respirators + spares. Evacuation routes preplanned and drilled. Seriously obsessive safety training and drills. Emergency communications network by dedicated hard line and radio, etc.

174 posted on 09/16/2022 1:49:58 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: ConservativeMind

Send me a copy. I wanna build one of my own! :) lol


175 posted on 09/16/2022 5:00:12 PM PDT by TigersEye (The Democrat Party is criminal, unAmerican and illegitimate )
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To: Zhang Fei

Prolly invented by the same guy who made the carburetor that lets cars run on water.


176 posted on 09/16/2022 10:12:19 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Zhang Fei

Thanks for answering my q on whether this had been tested.


177 posted on 09/24/2022 5:10:28 AM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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