Posted on 09/12/2022 5:14:47 PM PDT by nickcarraway
An international team of scientists say they have found a new way to extract water from bone-dry air to produce hydrogen, which they call “the ultimate clean energy”. Unsplash
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An international team of scientists say they have found a new way to extract water from bone-dry air to produce hydrogen, which they call “the ultimate clean energy”.
The researchers said the device could be used in an arid environment where relative humidity was as low as 4 per cent — meaning green hydrogen could potentially be created without using liquid water.
Average relative humidity is around 20 per cent, for example, in the Sahel desert in Africa and Uluru in the Central Australian desert.
“Moisture in the air can directly be used for hydrogen production via electrolysis, owing to its universal availability and natural inexhaustibility,” the researchers wrote in a paper published in peer-reviewed journal Nature Communications on Tuesday (Sept 6).
The team of chemical engineers — from the University of Melbourne, University of Manchester and Chinese Academy of Sciences — said there were 13 trillion tonnes of water in the air at any moment. Electrolysis is the process of using electricity to split water into oxygen and hydrogen. When the process is powered by renewable electricity, the green hydrogen is “the most promising energy carrier of the low-carbon economy”, the scientists said.
Hydrogen can also be used as a storage medium for energy that is not continuously available, such as solar, wind and tidal power, they said.
But a global geographic mismatch between renewables distribution and fresh water supply makes it difficult to produce hydrogen in places where drinking water is a priority, according to the paper.
It pointed to North Africa, West and Central Asia, Midwest Oceania and the southwest of North America as areas where there is a shortage of fresh water but potential for solar and wind power.
To overcome the problem of not having enough water to create hydrogen, the scientists designed a device that uses porous materials — like a melamine sponge — soaked in electrolytes to absorb moisture from the air. It then splits the captured liquid water into hydrogen and oxygen. That process could be powered by a solar panel, a wind turbine or other renewable generators.
The team’s prototype machine is 1 square metre and can produce 93 litres of hydrogen per hour, according to the study. The device was tested to produce hydrogen of high purity for more than 12 days in a row at 40 per cent relative humidity without any liquid water added.
Study co-author Fan Xiaolei, from the University of Manchester’s chemical engineering department, said the device had several advantages.
“A lot of places with abundant renewable energy sources have limited water supply. Instead of competing for scarce drinking water, the device collects water from the air – which can hardly be used by humans anyway — to produce hydrogen,” he said.
“The production process also makes use of excess renewable energy, which could go to waste if not stored or sent to power grids when they have reached maximum capacities.”
Fan said the development could also be significant for chemical makers that use green hydrogen as a feedstock and renewable energy to reduce their carbon footprint, giving ammonia production as an example.
Hu Guoping, a researcher with the Ganjiang Innovation Academy at the Chinese Academy of Sciences and also a co-author of the study, said hydrogen could potentially be transported to cities via gas pipelines when the device is scaled up.
“When China reduces the share of natural gas in its energy mix in the coming decades, the existing pipeline network can be used to transport hydrogen from the west to the eastern coastal cities,” he said. “At a smaller size, the device can be run in remote areas to power daily life.”
Lead author Kevin Li Gang, a senior lecturer at the University of Melbourne’s chemical engineering department, said the team planned to enlarge the device and explore other applications for it.
Li said it would be expanded to 10 square metres in the third quarter next year so it could produce enough hydrogen power in a day for one family.
He estimated that if it were scaled up to the size of a tennis court powered by solar energy, the device would be able to produce enough hydrogen to fuel 400 cars a year.
“We expect the product to be ready for market launch by the end of 2025 at the size of 1,000 square metres and operating in deserts, cold regions and places with storms,” Li said.
Why not just salt as both the desiccant and electrolyte?
“why do the electrolysis out there, when, like I said, water is everywhere? Electrolysis can be done with abundant water elsewhere, and then the hydrogen can be transported to where it’s needed, including the desert. It wold still end up more cost-effective if done away from the desert.”
Let me see your calcs.
The idiot that wrote this has never heard of hydrogen embrittilment of high carbon steel.
It will be really easy to do this when the World Government convenes to suspend the laws of physics.
AND all they need is massive taxpayer funding to make it work.
Ran across this the other day that has gone completely unnoticed by the Greenies, enviro-idiots and the climate change doomsayers.....
‘How Co2 Could Be The Fuel Of The Future’
https://www.facebook.com/vicenews/videos/how-co2-could-be-the-fuel-of-the-future-vice-on-hbo/2123005001063054/
The video is an eye-opener and could, theoretically, solve a lot of issues/problems as it regards green idiot policies, etc.
You’re kind of a dick ain’t ya.
My dehumidifier takes two gallons per day out the air.
“Let me see the results of that hypothetical dry-area electrolysis first. Once YOUR calcs are available, then, perhaps the sales and effectiveness can be calculated and compared to other methods.”
You were the one that made the claim, not me. I guess you were just ranting?
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It wold still end up more cost-effective if done away from the desert.”
“It’s YOU and the people suggesting the desert electrolysis who have to prove that it’s cost effective. “
I never made that claim. You made the baseless claim.
Is this the new LENR? Is Rossi involved in this?
“I can make the claim because you supported the idea. So, produce the studies and cost-effectiveness to back up the idea”
Cite that post. I posted facts.
OTOH, I cited your baseless claim.
Cost of producing H2 and delivering it 200 miles (one truck load): $140.
Cost of producing it locally: Free
BTW, I didn’t include deposits on the bottles or meals for the driver. I assumed the villagers would take car of the driver.
Your numbers, please.
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