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Will California freeze in the dark?
American Thinker ^ | 8 Sep, 2022 | Bruce Thompson

Posted on 09/08/2022 11:59:05 AM PDT by MtnClimber

The current electricity crisis in California is an echo of a similar situation in 2000–2001. There were power generation issues then, due in part to shortages causing rising prices for natural gas. One factor in the shortages was an explosion in an El Paso Natural Gas pipeline in New Mexico bringing Texas natural gas to California.

At the time of year between the summer cooling and winter heating peaks in electrical demand, the utilities use any available pipeline capacity to put gas into underground storage. Without Texas gas arriving through the ruptured EPNG pipelines, those natural gas storage operations fell short. They should ask Congressman Brad Sherman and Erin Brockovich how much gas is currently in storage at Aliso Canyon.

Eighty MWHs of battery storage won't last long enough to provide two full hours of the expected demand.

As Texans learned during their own cold spell in February 2021, you can't run gas-fired power plants without a supply of natural gas.

The California electric grid operator, the California Independent System Operator (CAISO), allocates power; it does not generate power.

What should worry Californians is not warm weather, but cold weather. Those who want proof need look no farther than the rolling blackouts in January 2001 and the fall of former governor Gray Davis (D).

A major problem for California will arrive about the winter solstice, in that the solar energy plants won't be able to provide full "installed generating capacity" due to the low elevation of the sun at Local Apparent Noon (LAN) and the shortened hours of daylight.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: communism

1 posted on 09/08/2022 11:59:05 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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2 posted on 09/08/2022 11:59:24 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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I vote we find out,


3 posted on 09/08/2022 12:00:20 PM PDT by MrHead (It is terrible to consider how few politicians are hanged. G.K.Chesterton)
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We can only look forward to the possible redistribution of their electoral votes.


4 posted on 09/08/2022 12:00:52 PM PDT by Jhadur ("You are not ready for immortality.")
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"Will California freeze in the dark?"

One can only hope …

5 posted on 09/08/2022 12:01:05 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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I am so happy to live in Idaho now!!! Best damned thing about the new house is the woodshed with eight cords of wood in it!!


6 posted on 09/08/2022 12:01:17 PM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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“What should worry Californians is not warm weather, but cold weather”

Symptoms of the bigger problem

There’s really no reason to be going through any of this other than libtard stupidity


7 posted on 09/08/2022 12:02:04 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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Is this why Nancy Pelosi is going to Italy?


8 posted on 09/08/2022 12:03:12 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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Is this why Nancy Pelosi is going to Italy?


9 posted on 09/08/2022 12:03:12 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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Will California freeze in the dark?

Just the Ordinary American, Productive, Taxpaying Citizens will.

10 posted on 09/08/2022 12:03:49 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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What if there is another reason re the electricity shortages, Data Center Projects, and we are not being told about these “Clean Energy” consumers!?

In Virginia, new datacenter projects have started to run into opposition over land use and concerns over water quality, while a report in July claimed that the region did not have enough power transmission capacity for all of the planned builds.*

In Ireland, South Dublin County Council put a ban on any further bit barns being built within its boundaries in June. Concerns were raised that data centers are having a major impact on the Irish electricity network and the country could face “rolling blackouts” if the growing demand was not addressed.

Makes if you live and try to work in California, wonder what are the real causes of our shortage of Electricity?

If electricity shortages are happening in Virginia and Ireland, could our multiple Clean Air SillyCon Valleys be causing some of the shortage problems in California?

*https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/08/virginia_datacenter_alley_capacity/

**https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4091811/posts


11 posted on 09/08/2022 12:06:38 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Anyone, who can make you believe in absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.!" ~ (Voltaire)!!)
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Stupid should hurt. We are about to find out if it actually does.


12 posted on 09/08/2022 12:06:56 PM PDT by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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A lot of them will be raped and murdered in the dark.


13 posted on 09/08/2022 12:14:11 PM PDT by dljordan
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California, the Coldin’ State


14 posted on 09/08/2022 12:34:57 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (t)
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“What should worry Californians is not warm weather, but cold weather.”

I didn’t even know they had cold weather in California. What’s winter in Cali? Throwing on a windbreaker over your shorts and sandals?


15 posted on 09/08/2022 12:40:12 PM PDT by Boogieman
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Lo siento mi amigos. Hasta luego.

5.56mm


16 posted on 09/08/2022 12:43:12 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho got to go.)
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I agree! The internet says average yearly temp in CA is 51 degrees. Don’t think there is going to be much freezing.


17 posted on 09/08/2022 12:43:52 PM PDT by Stormy_MS1 (CHINA VIRUS!!)
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18 posted on 09/08/2022 1:18:30 PM PDT by broken_clock (Go Trump! Still praying.)
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The answer for the author is “No” for now...nat gas prices up in CA (& pretty much everywhere else) but supply is not currently a problem. Future issue for CA winters is the banning of nat gas heating in new construction by the idiot CA politicians. (only municipalities considering for now).


19 posted on 09/08/2022 3:24:47 PM PDT by Drago
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