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ANOTHER BATTLE IN VIRGINIA: A Severe Engagement on Monday Evening; GENS. KEARNEY AND STEVENS KILLED (9/3/1862)
New York Times - Times Machine ^ | 9/3/1862

Posted on 09/03/2022 5:42:46 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

WASHINGTON, Tuesday, Sept. 2.

Gens. KEARNEY and STEVENS were killed in a severe engagement which took place last evening near Chantilly, about two miles North of Fairfax Court-house, between a portion of Gen. POPE's army and JACKSON's forces. Our loss was heavy, but the enemy was driven back a mile, and we occupied the field of battle until 3 o'clock this morning.

Gen. STEVENS was killed with a Minie ball, which entered his brain while he was leading his men into action, bearing the colors in his hand, the Color-Sergeant having been slain. His son, acting as Assistant-Adjutant of the brigade commanded by his father, was wounded.

Gen. PHILIP KEARNEY was also killed last night. His body was taken possession of by the enemy, but afterwards delivered into our lines under a flag of truce.

MOVEMENTS OF OUR ARMY.

WASHINGTON, Tuesday, Sept. 2 -- P.M.

Our army has advanced two miles toward the late battle-field.

The killed are being buried, and the wounded removed, under a flag of truce.

About twenty-three hundred have thus far been removed from the various fields of battle.

A COUNCIL OF WAR

A correspondent of the Newark Daily Advertiser says: "A council of war was held yesterday (Sept 1.) at Centreville, which was participated in by Gens. Pope, McDowell, Sigel, Banks, Heintzelman, Kearney, Hooker, Porter, Reno, Cox, Summer and Sturgis; and the plans that were determined on are said to have met the complete sanction and approval of Gen. HALLECK, who is perfectly satisfied they will result advantageously. The prospect is pronounced promising that Gen. POPE will soon advance upon the enemy again."

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KEYWORDS: civilwar
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1 posted on 09/03/2022 5:42:46 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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2 posted on 09/03/2022 5:43:54 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: chajin; henkster; CougarGA7; BroJoeK; central_va; Larry Lucido; wagglebee; Colonel_Flagg; Amagi; ...

Another Battle in Virginia: A Severe Engagement on Monday Evening – 2-3
Evacuation of Fredericksburgh – 3
Latest Lists of Killed and Wounded – 3-6
The War in the West: Martial Law Proclaimed in Cincinnati – 7
The Indian War in the Northwest – 7-8
Editorial: A Barbarian Invasion of the North – 8-9
A Call for Cavalry – 9
Editorial: Is There to be No Draft? – 9


3 posted on 09/03/2022 5:44:48 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
In early September the Union lost three battles, one each in Virginia, Mississippi and in Minnesota against the Dakota Indians:

Virginia Engagements. 1861 - 1862 to date

DateEngagementMilitary UnitsLossesVictor
May 18-19Sewell's Point, VAUnion naval squadron vs Confederate shore artillery10 totalinconclusive
May 29- June 1Aquila Creek, VAUnion naval squadron vs Confederate shore artillery10 totalinconclusive
June 1Fairfax Court House, VAdetachments from CSA & USA armies8 on each side, 1 each killedinconclusive
June 1Arlington Mills, VAdetachments from USA ( ~200 McDowell) & CSA (~9 Bonham) armiesUnion 2-total (1 killed); CSA 1 woundedinconclusive
June 10Big Bethel, VAUnion (Butler) -3,500, CSA (Magruder) -1,400Union 71-total (18-killed); CSA: 10-total (1-killed)CSA (CSA outnumbered)
June 15Hooe's Ferry (near Mathias Point) VAUnion schooner Christina Keen; CSA Farmer's Fork Graysnone -- Christina Keen captured and burnedCSA
June 17Vienna, VADetachments from both Union & CSA armiesUnion: 12-total (8 killed); CSA: none reportedCSA
June 27Matthias' Point, VAUnion gunboats ~50 vs. Confed garrison ~500Union: 1-killed, 4-wounded; CSA noneCSA
July 18Blackburn's Ford, VA (pre-Manassas)Union Department of NE Virginia (McDowell, Richardson) -3,000 vs. Confederate Army of VA (Beauregard, Longstreet) -5,100Union: 83-total; CSA 70-total CSA
July 21Bull Run/Manassas, VAUnion Department of NE Virginia (McDowell, Patterson) -54,000 (18,000 engaged) vs. Confederate Army of VA (Beauregard, Longstreet) -34,000 (18,000 engaged)Union: 2,708-total (481-killed); CSA 1,897-total (387-killed) CSA
Aug 7CSA burned Hampton, VAUnion (Butler) vs. Confederate Cavalry (Magruder)Union unknown; Confederates unknownCSA
Aug 8skirmish at Lovettsville, VA Union vs. Confederate Union unknown; Confederates 6-totalUSA
Aug 25Mason's Hill, VAUnion (Lowe's observation balloon) vs. Confederate Army NVA (Longstreet, Stuart)Union unknown; Confederates unknownUSA
Aug 31Munson's Hill, VAUnion Army of the Potomac vs. Confederate Dept of Northern VAUnion 5-total; Confederates unknownUSA
Sep 3Bailey's Cross Roads, VAUnion & Confederat detachmentsUnion 8-total; Confederates noneCSA
Sep 11Lewinsville, VA (McLean, Fairfax County) Union 79th NY Highlanders (Stephens ~1,800) & Confederate 1st & 13th VA (JEB Stuart ~400)Union 12-total (3-killed); Confederates noneCSA (CSA outnumbered)
Oct 21Ball's Bluff, VAUnion MA, NY, MI, MN & CA Infantry, RI Artillery (Stone -1,720) & Confederate VA & MS Infantry, VA cavalry & artillery (Evans -1,709)Union 1,002-total, including Lt. Oliver Wendell Holmes (223-killed including US Senator Edward Baker R-OR)), Confederates 155-total (36-killed) CSA
Nov 26Skirmish at Hunter's Mills, VAUnion 3rd PA Cavalry (Bell ~94) & Confederate 1st NC Cavalry (Ransome ~120)Union 33-total (1-killed), Confederates unknown 0? CSA
Dec 20Drainsville, VAUnion Pennsylvania Volunteers (Ord ~5,000) & Confederate VA, KY & NC Volunteers (Stuart ~4,000)Union 71-total (?-killed), Confederates 230-total (?-killed) USA (1st larger Union victory in VA)
Jan 3, 1862Cockpit Point, VAUnion gun boats (Wyman ) & Confederate shore battery (French ~50)noneInconclusive
Mar 8-9Hampton Roads, VAUnion Navy (Marsten, Worden, USS Monitor +11 ships) & Confederate Navy (Buchanan, Jones CSS Virginia +5 ships)Union 369 total (261 killed, 7 ships sunk), Confederate 24 total (7- killed)Inconclusive (Strategic USA)
Mar 23Kernstown, VAUnion Army of Potomac V Corps (Kimball ~9,000) & Confederate Stonewall Division (Jackson ~4,200)Union 590 total (118-killed), Confederate 718 total (80- killed)USA tactical, CSA strategoc
April 5 - May 4Yorktown, VAUnion Army of the Potomac (McClellan ~103,000) & Confederate Army (Magruder, JE Johnson ~72,000)Union 182-total (unkn-killed), Confederate 300-total (unkn killed)Inconclusive, Confederates retreated
May 5Williamsburg, VAUnion Army of the Potomac (McClellan ~41,000), Confederate Army of Northern VA (JE Johnston, Longstreet ~32,000)Union 2,283-total (~342-KIA), Confederates 1,682-total (~252 kia)Inconclusive (Confederates withdrew)
May 7Eltham's Landing, VAUnion Army of the Potomac (Franklin ~11,300), Confederate Army of Northern VA (GW Smith ~11,000)Union 194-total (~29 killed), Confederates 48-total (~7-killed)Inconclusive (Confederates withdrew)
May 8McDowell, VAUnion OH & WVA infantry (Milroy, Schenck ~6,500), Confederate Virginia Infantry (Stonewall Jackson, E Johnson ~9,000)Union 259-total (~28 killed), Confederates 532-total (~146-killed)CSA
May 15Fort Darling, VAUnion VA River Squadron (Rogers 5-river warships), Confederate fort (Farrand, Mahone -fort artillery)Union 27-total (14-killed), Confederates 15-total (7-killed)CSA
May 23Front Royal, VAUnion Dept of Shenandoah (Kenly ~1,063), Confederate Army of the Valley (Stonewall Jackson ~3,0000)Union 773-total (83-killed), Confederates 36-total (unkwn-killed)CSA
May 25Winchester, VAUnion Dept of Shenandoah (Banks ~6,500), Confederate Army of the Valley (Stonewall Jackson ~16,0000)Union 2,019-total (62-killed), Confederates 397-total (68-killed)CSA
May 27Hanover Court House, VAUnion V-Corps (Porter ~12,000), Confederate NC Infantry (Branch ~4,0000)Union 397-total (62-killed), Confederates 930-total (70-killed)USA
May 31 - June 1Seven Pines / Fair Oaks, VAUnion Army of the Potomac (McClellan ~34,000), Confederate Army of Northern VA (JE Johnston ~39,000)Union 5,431-total (790-killed), Confederates 6,134-total (980-killed)Inconclusive (both sides claimed victory)
June 6Good's Farm, Harrisonburg, VAUnion PA Inf, NJ Cav, Confederate Steuart's VA Inf (Ashby+)UnknownCSA
June 8Cross Keys, VAUnion Mountain Dept, (Fremont ~11,500), Confederate Army of the Valley (Ewell ~5,800)Union 684-total (114-killed), Confederates 287-total (42-killed)CSA
June 9Port Republic, VAUnion Dept of Rappahonnock (Tyler ~3,500), Confederate Army of the Valley (Stonewall Jackson ~6,000)Union 1,002-total (150?-killed), Confederates 816-total (122?-killed)CSA (CSA outnumbered)
June 25 - Jul 1Seven Days, near Richmond, VAUnion Army of Potomac (McClellan ~115,000), Confederate Army of N VA (Lee ~92,000)Union ~18,000-total (2,100-killed), Confederates ~19,000-total, (~3,200-killed)CSA
July 3Evelington Heights, VAUnion Army of Potomac, Confederate Army of N VA -- monor skirmishno casualties reportedUSA
Aug 9Cedar Mountain, VAUnion Army of VA (Banks -8,030, Confederate Army of NVA ("Stonewall" Jackson -16,868)Union 2,353-total (314-killed), Confederates ~1,338-total (231-killed)CSA
Aug 23-25Rappahannock Station, VAUnion Army of VA brigades (Pope), Confederate Army of N. VA brigades (Longstreet)Union ~180-total, Confederates ~90-total Inconclusive or CSA Victory?
Aug 26-27Manassas Station, VAUnion Army of VA (Taylor-killed, Pope), Confederate Army of N. VA (Stonewall Jackson, Ewell)Union ~450-total, Confederates ~173-total CSA
Aug 28Thoroughfare Gap, VAUnion Army of VA, (Ricketts -5,000), Confederate Army of N. VA (Longstreet -28,000)Union ~50-total, Confederates ~50-total CSA
Aug 28-302nd Bull Run, Manassas, VAUnion Army of VA, (Pope ~62,000), Confederate Army of N. VA (Lee -51,000)Union ~14,462-total (1,747-killed), Confederates ~7,298-total (1,096-killed)CSA (CSA outnumbered)
Sep 1Chantilly, VAUnion Army of the Potomac, (Kearny+, Stevens+ ~6,000), Confederate Army of N VA (Stonewall Jackson, JEB Stuart -20,000)Union 1300-total (195-killed?), Confederates 800 total (120-killed?)CSA

Mississippi 1862 Engagements

DateEngagementMilitary UnitsLossesVictor
April 29 - May 30Corinth, MSUnion Army of the Mississippi (Halleck, Grant, Thomas, Buel ~120,000), Confederate Army of the Mississippi (Beauregard, Bragg, Van Dorn ~65,000)Union 1,000+ total, Confederates 1,000+ totalUSA
Sep 1Denmark, MSUnion Army of the Missippi, (Dennis ~1,000), Confederate Army of the West (Armstrong -4,000)Union 108-total (8-killed), Confederates 288 total (11=killed)CSA

Minnesota 1862 Dakota War Engagements

DateEngagementMilitary UnitsLossesVictor
Aug 19New Ulm, MnUnion civilians (Nix, Roos, Flandreau -350), Santee Sioux (Little Crow, Big Eagle -750)Union 45-total (15-killed), Santee Sioux unknownUSA
Aug 20-22Fort Ridgley, Mn.Union Mn. Inf & Rangers (Marsh Shehan ~210), Santee Sioux (Little Crow, ~1,500))Union 17-total (4-killed), Santee Sioux 7-total (2-killed)USA
Sep 2-3Birch Coulee, MNUnion Dept. of the NW (HP Grant, Anderson ~150), Dakota Indians(Gray Bird, Bald Eagle -200)Union 60-total (13-killed), Dakotas unknown total (2-killed)Santee Sioux

These bring the Civil War's totals to 142 engagements, of which Confederates have won 62, lost 60, with 20 inconclusive:

Summary of Civil War Engagements as of September 3, 1862:
Engagements in Confederate states:

StateUnion VictoriesConfederate VictoriesInconclusiveTotal Engagements
South Carolina2215
Virginia7241142
North Carolina5106
Florida1001
Louisiana3104
Tennessee5319
Arkansas4015
Georgia1001
Mississippi1102
Total Engagements in CSA29321475

Engagements in Union states/territories:

StateUnion VictoriesConfederate VictoriesInconclusiveTotal Engagements
Maryland1012
West Virginia93214
Missouri1212124
New Mexico58013
Kentucky45211
Oklahoma0303
Total Engagements in Union3130667
Total Engagements to date606220142

The war's total casualties (by my count) are now over 180,000 including about 22,000 killed in action.

4 posted on 09/03/2022 6:20:14 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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We forget Generals fought at the front then.

That timeline is Excellent! Really helps understanding.
Thanks

Virginia bore the brunt.


5 posted on 09/03/2022 6:45:05 AM PDT by RWGinger (LGB)
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I’m sorry, and I’m not trying to be a smart ass, but I don’t understand why you post the Civil War stuff every day on free republic a breaking news blog site and only one or two people at most respond.

Isn’t there a Civil War blog, website, forum that you can better engage with other like-minded Civil War buffs?


6 posted on 09/03/2022 6:52:50 AM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: Hammerhead

This is the platform I use for the original posts. I link from here to Civil War discussion groups on Twitter and Facebook.

FR is not just a breaking news site. I post on the General/Chat forum using the History topic. There are a whole bunch of topics to choose from there, from agriculture to poetry.

I know I don’t get a lot of replies but this is not twitter or facebook where you have to respond to everything you read with a like or a reply. There are quite a few readers on my ping list, which goes back to when I was posting about WWII.

Additionally, the internet is forever (providing I keep paying photobucket) and I am building a source that will be available for history buffs for years to come. Not to mention getting clicks for FR.


7 posted on 09/03/2022 7:21:21 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Hammerhead
“I'm sorry, and I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but I don't understand why you post the Civil War stuff every day on free republic a breaking news blog site and only one or two people at most respond.”

I appreciate these posts because it reminds all of us the danger of an aggressive, corrupt, out-of-touch, power hungry federal government.

And why we need to stand up for the original U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the Declaration of Independence.

The blue state culture is bad now and has been since long before 1860.

8 posted on 09/03/2022 9:23:24 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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RWGinger: "We forget Generals fought at the front then."

Right, the best numbers I can find say about 1,000 men served as generals in the US Civil War, of whom 140 were killed.

This can compare to WWII when the US had a total of about 1,100 generals, of whom 40 died, and not all of those in combat.

It's claimed that 14 Russian generals have died in Ukraine this year, but that's in an army estimated as circa 150,000 or nearly one Russian general killed for every 10,700 Russian troops in just over six months.
In the Confederate army it was one general killed for every 13,700 troops over four years.
In the Union Army it was one general killed for every 37,300 troops over four years.

For Vietnam & War on Terror, I find only a handful of generals died, and most of those were not combat related.

RWGinger: "Virginia bore the brunt."

Indeed, I'm showing 43 Virginia engagements so far -- is well over half of those fought in the Confederacy, and nearly a third of all battles & skirmishes.
Plus, I haven't tallied up casualties per state, but Virginia battles are typically larger than those elsewhere, with correspondingly higher casualties.


10 posted on 09/03/2022 12:11:38 PM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: Hammerhead

I like his posts. It is kind of interesting that the New York Times were also liars in 1862 as well. They never really report the Union Army mishaps in 1862, and they had many.


11 posted on 09/03/2022 12:19:34 PM PDT by TreasonObserver
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To: jeffersondem

You are a traitor to the US just like the left. Your Confederacy was rightfully annihilated.


12 posted on 09/03/2022 2:49:54 PM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up!)
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“You are a traitor to the US just like the left. Your Confederacy was rightfully annihilated.”

You said that because I said this: “. . . And why we need to stand up for the original U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the Declaration of Independence.”

Your argument is that of a drug store cowboy.


13 posted on 09/03/2022 7:12:07 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

The beginning of Bruce Catton’s “Mr. Lincoln’s Army” has a great accounting of this campaign. (General Sturgis: “I don’t care for General Pope one pinch of owl dung”.) Pope was totally bewildered and buffaloed by the Confederates.


14 posted on 09/03/2022 7:15:40 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: rxh4n1

Great book. I learned a lot about Gen. McClellan from Catton’s in-depth look at the man. I only post from Catton’s earlier trilogy because it lends itself to timeline excerpting better than the AoP series does.


15 posted on 09/03/2022 7:36:33 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: jeffersondem
Documents that are part of the USA, the ones that the Confederacy repudiated, and wrote their own Constitution which decided liberty. To quote one, “ our nation is founded on the great truth that the Negro is not free.” You insult these GOD given documents by timing them to an evil product like the Confederacy
16 posted on 09/03/2022 8:25:45 PM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up!)
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“You insult these GOD given documents by timing them to an evil product like the Confederacy”

That is an interesting comment.

To be clear: are you saying that states and nations that had pro-slavery laws and constitutions were all evil and deserved to be destroyed?


17 posted on 09/04/2022 9:44:16 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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